From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Mon Oct 23 17:17:43 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A786E508A9 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom.b.rushworth@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pg0-x22c.google.com (mail-pg0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 662F67C51D for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom.b.rushworth@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pg0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id 15so7590577pgc.12 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:17:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=reply-to:subject:references:to:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eOmU43XAixSRLvsDG+2DOGlxgwr3CmVrVTcaSVq3KyI=; b=WVgfRDzxwZk2Si6NYld6da+85ACzm5h6X9I3SmqLIDzKfcrym68vsY3Xn8f+idMXSr vEkoiZDgx90qaFou3veGXg8z10o1eO+aVnkw40LkuLeMgZ12f0m9wrz95VwpCTFeqiQk oV7tsgV9DEXpQzZGrqhi01IDH7fr4YhxN0LeZ67rskr8aCmzz+oNdH1LefvI77wTif4G q6LyQpJ6w6fpzhcjRozH7W0FAVXwhvM+fuQFne0H+7fJbNkYnMBOQSzrU6KASfUr3/rj anSlc3+rO5YcOjdQNd2qfR6jCfbWQ7GaOQ/X0qg3tgRFOYRaPn8UtssJlHWGQ+6nz88z PccA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:reply-to:subject:references:to:cc:from :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eOmU43XAixSRLvsDG+2DOGlxgwr3CmVrVTcaSVq3KyI=; b=ZBC1HbxEzoIO0aQ9RAUUhYQDf/AwDeWqFSV7KS7XlVj8k9e2hwA89CvXtWs8ufXqLA tS2nHZeuEQNilATuJPR7SehArpw69x4Naw4KJCzbjQnOzrVUZkt8+44trz/InbPARkfI 21d5OvV5H+RSIeW4H/aP//MuFVcMNkUrlKtjiCG4c8IGvZWvjuaIjrgkSm+HYMhneS48 eQC+hNRe2w+PTJF48Es98KhIxQD3Ob9TjjQTaws7zYfjW24zTYbhu57qQU7BX/9VU4OM fIPBsa6nwoWVWIaEV4xYMBJ3YIlZjq94r2dMVzk/Hu5X+9ZzhCNNocyaGQ1l5UtoEZdM ya0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaVoxCJtAxHUUTHkNjS4w3x5ClqkHkYmf0T18GT3lpAFkgu6TZEc lct8ZkCgGlMEaLfH7LquzOcGlg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+QBcjFWynJ+nSMGRwQt8+5IIKive5X7uJakXbuaokrZcY0d59a4/DhhzsjdmhuCaQmPRheukg== X-Received: by 10.99.37.193 with SMTP id l184mr12811027pgl.14.1508779062730; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kelvin.mannynkapy.net ([207.102.139.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k25sm12626735pgf.62.2017.10.23.10.17.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: tbr@acm.org Subject: Re: Iris Pro P6300 intel X11 driver (was Re: intro) References: <696fb5ea-e1bf-d7c2-004a-eb4eb2af43d7@nomadlogic.org> <201710230617.v9N6HgIW013185@sdf.org> To: Scott Bennett Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org From: Tom Rushworth Message-ID: <23570022-8f26-0ed8-4ffb-933c19042953@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:17:41 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201710230617.v9N6HgIW013185@sdf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:17:43 -0000 Hi All, On 22/10/2017 23:17, Scott Bennett wrote: > Tom Rushworth wrote: > >> Before I get to the real content, a list etiquette question - should I >> top/interleave/bottom post, and should I trim? Does the list care? > > Editing in line is the norm, Right, that's my preference anyways, [snip] >> Suggestion 2 - try TrueOS > > TrueOS *is* FreeBSD 12 (at the moment) at its heart. Yes, absolutely, but the configuration is much more complete than a plain FreeBSD-12 install with the desktop added piecemeal by pkg. > [snip] >> >> So now I either have to learn to like TrueOS and Lumina, or figure out >> where my source version or configuration is wrong for the FreeBSD-12 >> setup :). I'm probably going to do a bit of both. > > Or you can just install the window manager of your preference, and > use that. I haven't yet used TrueOS, but the times I've installed and used > PC-BSD (the predecessor to TrueOS) I always installed my usual choice > (WindowMaker) and proceeded happily on. Lumina will still be there if you > need to use it. The only nuisance is that some of the special TrueOS > graphical applications may work better with Lumina, just as the earlier ones > did with KDE, which was the PC-BSD standard before Ken Moore wrote Lumina > for PC-BSD. I will probably try that, but I still have to learn a bit of the TrueOS setup (e.g. sysadm) so I can at least start fixing things when I break them :). [snip] Regards, -- Tom Rushworth