From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed May 7 04:20:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA17266 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dg-rtp.dg.com (dg-rtp.rtp.dg.com [128.222.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA17253 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dg-rtp.dg.com (5.4R3.10/dg-rtp-v02) id AA08960; Wed, 7 May 1997 07:20:06 -0400 Received: from ponds by dg-rtp.dg.com.rtp.dg.com; Wed, 7 May 1997 07:20 EDT Received: from lakes.water.net (lakes [10.0.0.3]) by ponds.water.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA00278; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.water.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id GAA03115; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 06:35:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199705071035.GAA03115@lakes.water.net> To: ponds!obiwan.psinet.net.au!adrian, ponds!cki.ipri.kiev.ua!rssh Subject: Re: Antispam sendmail.cf modifications.. Cc: ponds!coombs.anu.edu.au!avalon, ponds!FreeBSD.ORG!freebsd-hackers, ponds!nas.nasa.gov!thorpej Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > Dunno...I'm skeptical of GUIs for system configuration. Just seems > > > that there's no way they could ever be flexible enough to handle everyting. > > Thay must be extensability. > > > > > > > In principle, GUI tools is not such bad, it can be usefull. > > GUI tools are good for most things, except for very low-level stuff or > doing evil tweaky things to configurations. :) Let me add something else to the list of where not to use a GUI: Multiple/repetitive items (e.g. adding 500 freshmen accounts to several systems.) > > However, I like GUIs because it makes the *end user* feel more comfortable > configuring something. Sysadmins and clued people of a similar nature are > the edit-config-file-type, however I thought FreeBSD was also aimed at the > average joe running Windows :) We have tended toward that direction a little more recently; but my understand had been that we would accomodate the Windowsphile when possible but not, in general. > > Adrian > - Dave Rivers -