From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 16 23:32:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E41137B401 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 23:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from post-21.mail.nl.demon.net (post-21.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A1F43E75 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 23:32:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cls@raggedclown.net) Received: from [212.238.197.102] (helo=mailhost.raggedclown.net) by post-21.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18DJv1-000586-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 07:32:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id 85F344C8A for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:32:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from willow.raggedclown.net (willow.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.10]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id 3DC7FC0B for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:32:25 +0100 (CET) Received: by willow.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Host [willow], from userid 1009) id 54E1F225F1; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:32:25 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:32:25 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD: Server or Desktop OS? Message-ID: <20021117073225.GA862@raggedclown.net> References: <3DD6F4A0.124A3322@ene.asda.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DD6F4A0.124A3322@ene.asda.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre8 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 03:45:04AM +0200, Lefteris Tsintjelis wrote: > Reading helps for sure, I can't argue with that. However, a name such > as -to-become-stable would help most to realize what really is with > the first look). > This hangs on a badly chosen name. Maybe "INTERIM" would be better. From my experience "STABLE" has been for the most part worthy of it's name, although certainly bugs have crept in sometimes. But I have a small network, although often a fairly stressed one. The issue of someone providing a service for 1000's of online users is of course quite different. They are going to be hitting resource problems etc. in a big way. I guess there is little opportunity for the developers to actually emulate that kind of stress. I think the documentation does make clear you run a risk with -STABLE. Of course I could say that you get a responsiveness from the FreeBSD team that greatly exceeds that of any of the many commercial versions of UNIX and other OS'es I have worked on. Those of you who used to work on DEC systems may remember what became their notorious response to problem reports: "Your problem has been noted and may be fixed in a future release". -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message