From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 6 18:27:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA711065672 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2010 18:27:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 775428FC08 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2010 18:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14417 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2010 18:27:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2010 18:27:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ku0tJSe3tDOsBGPPIDzVCElYrGobLNO5NcAc5faZmKRhT9cpTqvS9gtP9QiN1Bz0IG0r37MVBhNDNmkvIoLudT0b4pIiPBQIypp3Bf+KyjjYPP8LEeOwiZ/Du+SJTj6I; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P3Yhf-0004m8-VS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 12:27:01 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 06 Oct 2010 12:22:26 -0600 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 12:22:26 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101006182226.GD75552@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20101006164240.GA15467@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iVCmgExH7+hIHJ1A" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101006164240.GA15467@lpthe.jussieu.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Which OS for notebook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 18:27:01 -0000 --iVCmgExH7+hIHJ1A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 04:42:40PM +0000, Michel Talon wrote: >=20 > I mean that the concept of maintaining a full set of binary packages=20 > which has been verified by the distribution maintainers and remain > usable for an extended period of time, combined with an effective > binary upgrader (apt-get, aptitude), is light years ahead, for ease of > use and convenience, to a rolling release style "bazar" like FreeBSD > ports, combined with tools like portupgrade, which sort of work only=20 > when you spend all your time running them daily, after having sacrificed > a young virgin to the gods. I concede that the FreeBSD way allows to have= =20 > very up to date ports, and to be in control of compilation options and > so on. Personnally i don't have much use for these benefits. I don't have the kinds of problems you imply. Portupgrade works great, even if I don't touch it for a week or so, at least for me. There are benefits to a rolling release process, too: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=3D4150 --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --iVCmgExH7+hIHJ1A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkysvmIACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX5RACdGkczRaw3chCf3PXVq1XracWm +MUAmgP1KVR9uPfoNL/IfMv0rD+HPIAH =Bqe1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --iVCmgExH7+hIHJ1A--