From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org  Wed Oct 12 14:54:07 2016
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org>
Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org
 [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1])
 by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5956BC0F42A
 for <freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>;
 Wed, 12 Oct 2016 14:54:07 +0000 (UTC)
 (envelope-from donaldbaud@yahoo.com)
Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org
 [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5])
 by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F3D1D6
 for <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 14:54:07 +0000 (UTC)
 (envelope-from donaldbaud@yahoo.com)
Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix)
 id 35700C0F429; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 14:54:07 +0000 (UTC)
Delivered-To: net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org
 [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1])
 by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3361FC0F428
 for <net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 14:54:07 +0000 (UTC)
 (envelope-from donaldbaud@yahoo.com)
Received: from nm22-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
 (nm22-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.71])
 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits))
 (Client did not present a certificate)
 by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 039A91D5
 for <net@freebsd.org>; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 14:54:06 +0000 (UTC)
 (envelope-from donaldbaud@yahoo.com)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048;
 t=1476283887; bh=D+IihGdmm6CRuUF18KCZuJ5BrDcKxYVadQzmjZFGp+E=;
 h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject;
 b=Gu4NGbrv4HWjlTQ6OGa6Vg/yz7yL3YOyefIr0z4wAzKY/XElbSGp3kbb6aMKoCpyBimkJtOawAACXmg0O+Jzx8ux6u8CTIlF+hh1+7rm5ITkhvS0nEeJ1/1jnC7tGe3bd9opWduaaThZVbmaHS6hce3XoWWJR+RgD63eN62iC+Wk7ftJRm1FKb9vhjix/TWOU3l6ttX3saJ8D4EJXsS0ng0e06waiRRQiUKGINBsjIqEjqv8L8Qqg5UrnC9exivDDN4RoOE4khmUGFhf9p9jBnKtMfUPTHoJ2Rkkj9zvbuoTinLhM+8QZEt2sqCSd5Qzzb6aoqqfcMDyKp8Rno3uRQ==
Received: from [98.137.12.58] by nm22.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP;
 12 Oct 2016 14:51:27 -0000
Received: from [208.71.42.213] by tm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP;
 12 Oct 2016 14:51:26 -0000
Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp224.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP;
 12 Oct 2016 14:51:26 -0000
X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 958998.41214.bm@smtp224.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3
X-YMail-OSG: RmaPDhkVM1kmNmkJPi5lz0eUzf915AuT_ybQftD7DgQv8v0
 AkU4SlKtsJyRtUAbfCA5spuryREm5xrJNuJi6rSFYgcV.OQIyRdbwCaWA7Lr
 zHPnLs4ZWotTUtNCR8N1d2oZJL3spb9cGdQhgnQkBGGLlRHkHyVAEKneGGj.
 Vy.x.9wSwTn.My2MolfOXSOqoKKoU1tvo7gYkgurPksvK5wY53kCQ4EOKjj6
 OtPkpSmRSDgUyj93vyW.xBJvtTsVqqd6ZxzUAWLOa42U8mMXG0gfu5rhdKP1
 tOIQtWwEqi_MMiF14c2bT.8sd0fpqYpcaW1Jd0ifbVrXlPKh_E8gYTJrRAmn
 NFUV2TmwYiGpVcENHyZUtOIWw0Zt.NYRbjcXyJAUXVW087cmL5Kc8dWB0UtW
 Eauo4IDD33IPc32BLZYDgaMHdrq4tpxxhkvbHiAvmk5mse0JFyZKLuicIA6y
 y6w8XaShftYQzeqED3EdT_F_tNF2rZLvADSeTxW32eaHcxZPENLQObgnUO2H
 JR6tZllghxrxFei9.7V8nYlMzB8lUVuvCj0g6zFsdYpo7IZ0W5HX4YanB
X-Yahoo-SMTP: fRRiyyGswBB1GYfBhw8frTz_QYRdpxY-
Subject: Re: FreeBSD10.3-RELEASE. Kernel panic.
To: "net@freebsd.org" <net@freebsd.org>
References: <CAAFYNruF4gFAiTCAhyRUQzcovW2osrKn4ehiuNR0btJCZbnOGg@mail.gmail.com>
 <57FC859F.5000200@grosbein.net>
 <CAJajdNUXOrzWDKVmSB1Xm_G6zqBhMsZ2vesDcAw2CPGFBU0xtg@mail.gmail.com>
 <2033449965.65391.1476244568309@mail.yahoo.com>
 <a450f0eb-378a-2bd5-2f24-a0eb6b941856@freebsd.org>
From: Donald Baud <donaldbaud@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <86183ea5-5855-5fb3-22f6-d25454859186@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 10:51:25 -0400
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0)
 Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <a450f0eb-378a-2bd5-2f24-a0eb6b941856@freebsd.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23
Precedence: list
List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD <freebsd-net.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-net>,
 <mailto:freebsd-net-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-net@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-net-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net>,
 <mailto:freebsd-net-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 14:54:07 -0000


On 10/12/16 1:13 AM, Julian Elischer wrote:
> On 11/10/2016 8:56 PM, Donald Baud via freebsd-net wrote:
>> I've been plagued with these =daily= panics until I tried the 
>> following recipes and the server has been up for 30 days so far:
>>
>> Normally I should expermient more to see which one of the receipes is 
>> really the fix, but I'm just glad that the server is stable for now.
>
> this is really great information.
> It makes debugging a lot more possible.
> I know it is a hard question, but do you have a way to simulate this 
> workload?
>
> I have no real way to simulate this kind of workload

Sadly, I don't have a way to simulate the workload but I am very 
interested to help fix these crashes since as Cassiano said, this makes 
mpd5/freebsd useless for pppoe/l2tp termination.

At this point, I would suggest that Cassiano and Андрей confirm that 
they don't get panics when they apply the recipes that I am using.

I am still running many other cisco-vpdn gateways that I would convert 
into mpd5/freebsd but my plan was stalled with the daily crashes.
I'll wait a couple of weeks to be sure that my recipes are a valid 
workaround before converting my remaining cisco gateways to mpd5.

-Dbaud
>>
>>
>> recipe-1: Don't let mpd5 start automatically when server boots:
>> i.e. in: /etc/rc.conf
>> mpd5_enable="NO"
>> and wait about 5 minutes after server boots then issue:
>> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mpd5 onestart
>>
>>
>> recipe-2: recompile the kernel with the NETGRAPH_DEBUG option:
>> options         NETGRAPH
>> options         NETGRAPH_DEBUG
>> options         NETGRAPH_KSOCKET
>> options         NETGRAPH_L2TP
>> options         NETGRAPH_SOCKET
>> options         NETGRAPH_TEE
>> options         NETGRAPH_VJC
>> options         NETGRAPH_PPP
>> options         NETGRAPH_IFACE
>> options         NETGRAPH_MPPC_COMPRESSION
>> options         NETGRAPH_MPPC_ENCRYPTION
>> options         NETGRAPH_TCPMSS
>> options         IPFIREWALL
>>
>> recipe-3: recompile the kernel and disable the IPv6 and SCTP options:
>> nooptions       INET6
>> nooptions       SCTP
>>
>> recipe-4: Don't use any of the sysctl optimizations
>> in other words I commented out all values in sysctl.conf:
>> # net.graph.maxdgram=20480  (this is the default)
>> # net.graph.recvspace=20480  (this is the default)
>>
>> recipe-5: Don't use any of the loader.conf optimizations
>> in other words I commented out all values in loader.conf
>> # net.graph.maxdata=4096  (this is the default)
>> # net.graph.maxalloc=4096 (this is the default)
>>
>> ================================
>> In my case, I had the panics with 10.3 and 11-PRERELEASE
>> 11.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 11.0-PRERELEASE #2 r305587
>>
>> With those recipes, I have been running without any crash for a month 
>> and counting.  Thats' 300 l2tp tunnels and 1400 l2tp sessions 
>> generating 700Mbit/s.
>>
>>
>> -DBaud
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 7:30 AM, Cassiano Peixoto 
>> <peixotocassiano@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> There are many users complaining about this:
>>
>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=186114
>>
>> I've been dealing with this issue for one year with no solution. mpd5 as
>> pppoe server on FreeBSD is useless with this bug.
>>
>> I really would like to see it working again, i think it's quite 
>> important
>> to both project and many users.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:24 AM, Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 11.10.2016 11:02, Андрей Леушкин пишет:
>>>
>>>> Hello. I have problem with "FreeBSD nas 10.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 
>>>> 10.3-RELEASE
>>>> #0: Fri Oct  7 21:12:56 YEKT 2016 nas@nas:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/nasv3
>>>>    amd64"
>>>>
>>>> Kernel panic is repeated at intervals of 2-3 days. At first I 
>>>> thought that
>>>> the problem is in the hardware, but the problem did not go away after
>>>> replacing the server platform.
>>>>
>>>> Coredumps and more info on link
>>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxciMy2q7ZjTTkIxem9wTE1tM2M
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for my english.
>>>> I'll wait for an answer.
>>>>
>>> This is known and long-stanging problem in the FreeBSD network stack.
>>> It shows up when you have lots of network interfaced created/removed
>>> frequently
>>> like in your case of Network Access Server (PPtP, PPPoE etc).
>>>
>>> Generally, people run into this problem using mpd5 network daemon.
>>> mpd5 uses NETGRAPH kernel subsystem to process traffic and
>>> if an interface disappears (f.e., ,user disconnected)
>>> while kernel still processes traffic obtained from this interface, it
>>> panices.
>>>
>>> There were lots of reports of this problem. Noone seems to be 
>>> working on
>>> it at the moment.
>>> You should fill a PR using Bugzilla and attach your logs to it.
>>>
>>> Eugene Grosbein
>>>