From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 19:54:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C56FFC5F for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 19:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FBB1569 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 19:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50F5146B2E for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 14:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB7Jsao4057773 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 14:54:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id rB7JsZ4t057770 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 14:54:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 14:54:35 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20120524201132.e11d5a0a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120524211218.65830131.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 07 Dec 2013 14:54:36 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 19:54:36 -0000 I have two laptops (Dell and HP) and two work stations (Compaq and Gateway) none of which would allow switching ttys with FreeBSD 9.1 and Xorg 7.5.1. So I updated the Gateway to 9.2 and xorg 7.7. It works fine. Encouraged, I updated the HP laptop. Switching ttys on this machine results in a locked state where the system responds to nothing and the video degrades to noise similar to what you get running the wrong driver. Clearly there is more to getting this to work than is apparent at a surface level. I guess I have two questions. Is this something that is likely to ever be solved? And where is the problem: BIOS, O/S, Xorg?? With the systems I have now it is more important (to me) to go ahead and run with the latest versions, so my solution will be, "if it hurts, don't do it". Functionally I am no worse off than now, and I use these systems to preview updating production stuff. I am more than happy to test patches, supply information, or whatever, to advance a solution to this but what I am looking for here is just to understand what's going on. Doug