From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 21:14:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B52875A3 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05CD7A0 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.100] (c-76-21-10-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.21.10.192]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E795341F916; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 13:14:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: default pager (csh) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Alfred Perlstein In-Reply-To: <20150222164102.65893435@gumby.homeunix.com> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 13:17:58 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <021CBC62-4CC6-4137-897E-FE482139E09B@westryn.net> <201502190116.t1J1GxAw028289@mail.karels.net> <20150219145251.7f6b4fd5@gumby.homeunix.com> <54E6AE88.3020302@ShaneWare.Biz> <20150222164102.65893435@gumby.homeunix.com> To: RW X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:14:06 -0000 On Feb 22, 2015, at 8:41 AM, RW wrote: > On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 14:18:24 +1030 > Shane Ambler wrote: >=20 >> On 20/02/2015 01:22, RW wrote: =20 >>> On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:16:59 -0600 >>> Mike Karels wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> Trivia: the version of more on BSD systems actually is derived from >>>> less, not the original version of more. =20 >>>=20 >>> Actually, more is less >>>=20 >>> $ md5 -r `which less ` `which more ` >>> 50404f1beaa4e1261407190a88494b59 /usr/bin/less >>> 50404f1beaa4e1261407190a88494b59 /usr/bin/more =20 >>=20 >> Yes more has been less for some time, trouble is it is programmed to >> behave differently based on the name used to call it so they aren't >> the same. =20 >=20 > I'm aware of that. >=20 >=20 >> Like everything, if you don't like the way it works you find a = setting >> to make it work the way you want. Whether you ask on a mailing list = or >> google it you will find a way to configure it your way. >>=20 >> As long as it works, the default is of little concern to most. =20 >=20 > Whatever the choice of default pager, I think the defaults should be > set-up so man doesn't exit at the bottom of a page. The fact that it's > easy to change make it all the more obtuse have a default that's = awkward > for new users who want to read the documentation. +1 It's funny, our less doesn't bother telling people to hit 'q' to quit, = so it's poisoned on both sides unfortunately. -Alfred=