From nobody Thu Sep 14 06:28:58 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RmS855kyyz4tQ53 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 06:28:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (smtprelay02.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RmS844V2pz3KXX for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 06:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de has no SPF policy when checking 80.67.18.14) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de; dmarc=none Received: from [89.0.54.77] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay02.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qgfqM-0005yQ-FG for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 08:28:50 +0200 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 08:28:58 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is ZFS native encryption safe to use? Message-ID: <20230914082802.40e03c8d@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <5d265cdf-00df-fc80-638b-84b13f1cbbbf@fjl.co.uk> References: <0e7d2657-f857-01a8-f764-33b9c62c11f1@netfence.it> <6b741e03-732e-f1b8-6340-0a8897fb8235@gmx.at> <5d265cdf-00df-fc80-638b-84b13f1cbbbf@fjl.co.uk> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.31 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.981]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.39)[0.390]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[80.67.18.14:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[fabiankeil.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[80.67.18.14:from]; BLOCKLISTDE_FAIL(0.00)[80.67.18.14:server fail,89.0.54.77:server fail]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8972, ipnet:80.67.16.0/20, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RmS844V2pz3KXX Frank Leonhardt wrote on 2023-09-13 at 12:33:39: > Another observation on the use cases - if you're backing up encrypted > ZFS datasets the backups are encrypted; if you backup from GELI they > will be clear unless you encrypt them again. That's why zogftw (ZFS on geli for the win) [0] exists. Fabian [0]