From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 24 18:10:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A747F16A4CE; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:10:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E38043D60; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:10:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701CD11B02; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 14:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <426BE11A.5070907@chuckr.org> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:10:34 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Kientzle References: <426AC21B.2080205@chuckr.org> <426AE866.7050008@chuckr.org> <86wtqs9yiw.fsf@xps.des.no> <426BD1F6.7050201@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <426BD1F6.7050201@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: region code in cdrecord X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:10:36 -0000 Tim Kientzle wrote: >>I may be completely off base here (no experience with making DVDs >>other than as enormous CDR's for backup), but does it need to be >>region coded at all? Even region-locked players should be able to >>play a dvd with no region code. I think 'no region code' might >>actually be region 0, but it amounts to the same thing. >>IMHO there's nothing dishonest in taking whatever steps you need to >>play a piece of legitimately purchased media. I should have answered earlier, but I had a mail disaster (really, caused by losing a raid volume) but I'm finally back, and miraculously enough, no lossage, even. I only get these disaster because I play so much with it. The mail quoting above I had to put together by hand, I wish the archive could be prodded into resending mail, but I haven't seen that yet. Anyhow, I had a bunch of answers like this. They are all assuming, I guess, that I'm a total idiot (and I think that sometimes I have given folks reasons why, but I hope not that often). Anyhow, the disk is (like I said, but in roundabout fashion I admit) region 2, so suggesting that I ignore the region is silly, it's there already. My dvd (and that of my friend's, I tested) both immediately choke on trying to play this disk, they don't even open a menu. I need to change that encoded region value from 2 to 1. Having software here that coded, say, a null value (if that's possible) would be ok, it's not what's happening today, the copy I made says region==2. That's why my dvd player says anyhow, I don't know where to look at the source files to figure it out. There was one suggestion that I go find out how to change my player. I guess that's a possibility, but I would really far, far rather produce a disk that has region==1 encoded onto it, than break my player by telling it that I'm in region 2 everytime I want to play that disk. k3b is just great at copying the disk. I understand that k3b really uses either cdrecord or cdrdao to burn the disk, so if I could convince the disk that I am region 1, I would be in fat city. I spent quite a long time reading the docs on cdrecord and cdrdao, and although I didn't learn enough, I learned more than I started with, like there is a config file named /usr/local/etc/cdrecord (and *.sample, a duplicate, for me)but of all the variables defined there, of the form CDR_, I didn't find anything really convenient like CDR_REGION. I figure that the right words in that file would likely do the job. I went into the source code of cdrecord, but didn't find anything that looked really likely to work. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist, maybe I just didn't look hard enough. I think that my two dvd records (one a Sony, it's really only a player) the other is a HP420i, and it's definitely a recorder, but I bet that the region is actually encoded right there in the hardware somehow. Maybe I need to hunt the HP website and find it? If anyone has any more info, they'be be welcome. Forget the really easy notions, I'm dumb, but not that dumb.