Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:10:34 +0000 From: Chuck Robey <chuckr@chuckr.org> To: Tim Kientzle <kientzle@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: region code in cdrecord Message-ID: <426BE11A.5070907@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <426BD1F6.7050201@freebsd.org> References: <426AC21B.2080205@chuckr.org> <426AE866.7050008@chuckr.org> <86wtqs9yiw.fsf@xps.des.no> <426BD1F6.7050201@freebsd.org>
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Tim Kientzle wrote: >>I may be completely off base here (no experience with making DVDs >>other than as enormous CDR's for backup), but does it need to be >>region coded at all? Even region-locked players should be able to >>play a dvd with no region code. I think 'no region code' might >>actually be region 0, but it amounts to the same thing. >>IMHO there's nothing dishonest in taking whatever steps you need to >>play a piece of legitimately purchased media. I should have answered earlier, but I had a mail disaster (really, caused by losing a raid volume) but I'm finally back, and miraculously enough, no lossage, even. I only get these disaster because I play so much with it. The mail quoting above I had to put together by hand, I wish the archive could be prodded into resending mail, but I haven't seen that yet. Anyhow, I had a bunch of answers like this. They are all assuming, I guess, that I'm a total idiot (and I think that sometimes I have given folks reasons why, but I hope not that often). Anyhow, the disk is (like I said, but in roundabout fashion I admit) region 2, so suggesting that I ignore the region is silly, it's there already. My dvd (and that of my friend's, I tested) both immediately choke on trying to play this disk, they don't even open a menu. I need to change that encoded region value from 2 to 1. Having software here that coded, say, a null value (if that's possible) would be ok, it's not what's happening today, the copy I made says region==2. That's why my dvd player says anyhow, I don't know where to look at the source files to figure it out. There was one suggestion that I go find out how to change my player. I guess that's a possibility, but I would really far, far rather produce a disk that has region==1 encoded onto it, than break my player by telling it that I'm in region 2 everytime I want to play that disk. k3b is just great at copying the disk. I understand that k3b really uses either cdrecord or cdrdao to burn the disk, so if I could convince the disk that I am region 1, I would be in fat city. I spent quite a long time reading the docs on cdrecord and cdrdao, and although I didn't learn enough, I learned more than I started with, like there is a config file named /usr/local/etc/cdrecord (and *.sample, a duplicate, for me)but of all the variables defined there, of the form CDR_<varname>, I didn't find anything really convenient like CDR_REGION. I figure that the right words in that file would likely do the job. I went into the source code of cdrecord, but didn't find anything that looked really likely to work. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist, maybe I just didn't look hard enough. I think that my two dvd records (one a Sony, it's really only a player) the other is a HP420i, and it's definitely a recorder, but I bet that the region is actually encoded right there in the hardware somehow. Maybe I need to hunt the HP website and find it? If anyone has any more info, they'be be welcome. Forget the really easy notions, I'm dumb, but not that dumb.
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