From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Feb 22 14:49:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00185 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 14:49:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00152 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 14:48:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id WAA05117; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 22:14:38 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199802222114.WAA05117@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: how many tk version do oyu need... To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 22:14:38 +0100 (MET) Cc: hoek@hwcn.org, dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hoek@james.hwcn.org, jseger@freebsd.scds.com In-Reply-To: <199802222044.MAA08250@dingo.cdrom.com> from "Mike Smith" at Feb 22, 98 12:43:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > unlike make/gmake, the bloat with tk is very large since it installs a > > ton of files, and emulation is not really a ppossibility (or, at least, > > unless tk has a backward compatible mode... but i doubt it.. > > Just to head this crap off right here, the "bloat" for a single tk > version is about one megabyte. Let's contrast this with thirty-odd > megabytes for emacs or more than sixty for xemacs. I don't care about size, but mess in the filesystem disturbs me a lot. You are right, tk4.2 is about 1MB of library binaries, another meg in /usr/local/lib/tk4.X, plus perhaps half a meg of manpages (maybe more). But this is about 400 (yes four hundred) files. A single 20MB file would bother me much less. Of course you have to add the corresponding tcl version (more or less same size, and some 200-odd files). The worse part: the manpages for these versions go all in the same place, so you'll get (part of) the old ones overwritten. > Looking at it from another angle, it costs you about ten US cents per > tk version, as opposed to about six dollars for Xemacs. oh yes... never installed emacs... i started using FreeBSD with a 250MB disk and decided sources were more precious than emacs. > This is turning into another Boggle-esque argument. 8( i managed to stay out of that one... :) cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message