From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 02:39:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18555 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 02:39:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA18550 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 02:39:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 1 Sep 98 10:38:19 +0100 (BST) To: Mike Smith cc: Bob Vaughan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:25:22 -0000." <199808312326.XAA01271@word.smith.net.au> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 10:38:18 +0100 From: David Malone Message-ID: <9809011038.aa05059@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I don't expect to be talked down to like a schoolboy, especially when I > > have been doing everything that it was suggested I do. > > So you've been reading the commit messages, then? I'm sure many people > have recommended this before. Seriously; if you really want 100% > coverage, you have to watch *everything*. To be fair, I've never seen reading the commit logs listed as a requirement for running stable. Not announcing changes that break stuff makes a nonsense of telling people they should subscribe to -stable before running -stable. Why bother when you're just going to be told to read the commit logs and diffs? (I do read the diffs - but I don't consider it reasonable that everyone should have to - people ftping CTM deltas don't even get the commit logs). As you say, for 100% coverage read everything available. OTOH a message to -stable wouldn't have gone amis. If someone forgot to post this message fine - but it seems unfair to move the goal posts and tell people it was completly their fault for not reading every available bit of info. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message