From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Tue Aug 9 05:09:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17BABB297F for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 05:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x235.google.com (mail-pa0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A80D11A1 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 05:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-pa0-x235.google.com with SMTP id fi15so1715115pac.1 for ; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 22:09:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=ca+ZCrgdcBFaco7GNz9H/TIlYn6Z8ckBSTPP4barkKo=; b=Rqv/UncdLsFrs5VVlVPuU651b4FpwXiqFnqB9DnnNUn32jwrNvbh+4MlWJl8mwQbL1 CCPY195dbDsSFj+bBcoWLpBtXuEgpc689MMb4PfYWUaA0hCXAfF2jWcnDBBBvpIrXFKN 3xyVuWSCojIGIFR3Z3KwqRhMgSr3stHGCVqSNwPK5ki74V0t3cAVIkg7Fq6m/NDIho/w xnL0wbC1zWt5Xbbxo8OsBlkXUUlvytnZSQ01WMlhqEymzDINlABwNmvGPTJ0Gt5EdwzY MnyoQITWMvKj/8E92n3MFAvjrvo5j0pqqxCjLIuEbmrLbyxI5q/qPErHdIn7ZgYPO2EA T8TQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=ca+ZCrgdcBFaco7GNz9H/TIlYn6Z8ckBSTPP4barkKo=; b=aiY8YDnQ5+E4m/CjTRzyNG4A71dYVqDDOd9imzwDOmMHcVH2AVbPQ0TssSkkOIrLCD ckAa68f6JEWGdrc0F8SJW3v2QZgJLoNYOHmNcBf39TihoZPjxUFv5sZmAbtH5YWlRK+T aXg3gz8vjfdrDllEGZ94knduE2iFKVZQkMCHLSf1xIN9fARsw62a/RHOhJnitRxL6vw8 7msBXasfnwxvI14/fqxnHqtDrjGRdjB3af90Bqt0mRmjX+lBMU1r+jNZyNiYeU0GrA9O NutlYwQb8UbAXD/x9ToKOeZ68x9w6mkZj8Oa+eJPsBJqP/viqVom2aPgOKYkF5TXmBkb 7URg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuJfKaPXeiMRjm8VtvNFYxD/rgpUr3elLA0gpauBnLWRB7YXjwRwmk/+VqC2rNCdw== X-Received: by 10.66.43.7 with SMTP id s7mr170467069pal.27.1470719383939; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 22:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [100.127.71.224] ([69.53.245.200]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id wp4sm52066309pab.15.2016.08.08.22.09.40 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 08 Aug 2016 22:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: svn commit: r303716 - head/crypto/openssh From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 23:09:39 -0600 Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= , Andrey Chernov , Peter Jeremy , Bruce Simpson , Oliver Pinter , src-committers , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Security Team , FreeBSD Release Engineering Team Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201608031608.u73G8Mjq055909@repo.freebsd.org> <9a01870a-d99d-13a2-54bd-01d32616263c@fastmail.net> <30e655d1-1df7-5e2a-fccb-269e3cea4684@freebsd.org> <20160807204039.GB79784@server.rulingia.com> <8371434C-86F6-4DCB-82D4-F236BBC2F9A2@bsdimp.com> <86shufv8yt.fsf@desk.des.no> To: Warner Losh X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 11:19:47 +0000 X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 05:09:44 -0000 > On Aug 8, 2016, at 10:45 PM, Warner Losh wrote: >=20 > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:41 AM, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav = wrote: >> Warner Losh writes: >>> Andrey Chernov writes: >>>> FreeBSD 11 is not released yet (betas are not counted), stable-10 = too, >>>> so it is right time to deprecate for them. >>> Nice try, but feature freeze was months ago. Have you got buy in = from the >>> security officer and the release engineer? >>>=20 >>> I didn=E2=80=99t think so... >>=20 >> You have absolutely *no* basis for this claim, and I would like you = to >> retract it. >=20 > Why do I need to retract anything? He provided pointers to the re@ = approval. >=20 > Come on DES. Actually, you=E2=80=99re right. My defensive reaction was wrong. I=E2=80=99m sorry DES. What I said was in the heat of the moment, and = isn=E2=80=99t supported by the facts. I was wrong to say it like I did, especially since I = didn=E2=80=99t check into it first. Please forgive my outbursts. Warner=