From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 11 08:09:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA14258 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14245 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id AAA24459; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 00:38:32 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199707111508.AAA24459@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: I2O only available under NDA? In-Reply-To: from "Ron G. Minnich" at "Jul 11, 97 09:10:49 am" To: rminnich@Sarnoff.COM (Ron G. Minnich) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 00:38:31 +0930 (CST) Cc: deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ron G. Minnich stands accused of saying: > I think a reasonable response to this NDA nonsense, if true, is to have > as many people as possible indicate to the I2O sig that their position IS > nonsense. Just remind them of what happened to MCA when IBM tried the > same deal. That's what I'm doing. It is true. Their line is "it's our idea, and so we think that not only should we control who knows about it, we should control _what_they_do_with_it_." To be honest, I think that what can be seen of their architecture _sucks_. It offers little or no parallelism, and for all that the '960 is reasonably quick and VxWorks a fairly nice RTOS, it simply doesn't cut the mustard. Then again, you're probably in more of a position to know about this stuff than I am 8) > Ron Minnich |Java: an operating-system-independent, > rminnich@sarnoff.com |architecture-independent programming language > (609)-734-3120 |for Windows/95 and Windows/NT on the Pentium *ouch* -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[