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Date:      Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:56:55 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: time_t not to change size on x86 
Message-ID:  <200110280256.f9S2utu93282@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
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<<On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:20:48 -0700 (PDT), Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> said:

>     I already responded to the C90 stuff you posted.  Your reasoning
>     and the elements you posted were extremely weak arguments, frankly.

As opposed to you who has never participated in the standards process?

>  So frankly, Garrett, I don't really give a damn what a ten-year old
>  standard says.

And I don't care whether you care or not, Matt.  It doesn't make your
proposal anything less than monumental stupidity.  It took the
original Standard C a good FIVE YEARS to be fully accepted, and we are
still making concessions to pre-Standard C even today.  It will take
at least as much time for C99 to be as widespread.

> 64 bit integer types on 32 bit platforms are totally acceptable
> today.

I never said they weren't.  I said that we should not break old
conforming Standard C applications.  We have never been fully POSIX
compliant -- the old POSIX was just too limited -- but we at least
made an effort to support C90.  You are proposing to break them, in
order to facilitate programs which were using time_t incorrectly
anyway.

-GAWollman


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