From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 16:56:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC9E37B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:56:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25349; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:56:37 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:56:37 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Dennis Reiter Cc: Donn Miller , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Improvements for FreeBSD v4.3.1-Release? Message-ID: <20010610165637.A25311@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <3B21D639.14436.461C2A4@localhost> <20010609154753.32846.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com> <20010609195708.A7667@reiters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010609195708.A7667@reiters.org>; from denny@reiters.org on Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 07:57:08PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 07:57:08PM -0500, Dennis Reiter wrote: > Quoting Donn Miller (hackr_d@yahoo.com): >> In general, I think journaling is better, but what happens when the >> journal itself gets corrupted? Another [+] for softupdates. Ok, I >> don't know what I'm talking about. > > What happens is you turn the ringer off on your phone and take a > long, long nap while it does an fsck. I've had this happen on a > 250gig filesystem. Patience, Grasshopper. The next phase of the softupdates project is an fsck that can run in userland background. So, you get the performance improvements of softupdates over a journaled filesystem, plus the near-instant reboot of a journaled filesystem. All for free! This is working in -current, I don't know if there are plans to back port to -stable or if it will just wait until 5.0 =becomes= -stable. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message