From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 19:18:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502D9CC5 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085D88FC0C for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:18:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-51-39.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.51.39]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0692491E; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:18:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id qBFJIEmo001865; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:18:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:18:14 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: Software Manager - try again later Message-Id: <20121215201814.f601293f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1355588717.2687.75.camel@q> References: <1355524688.25446.YahooMailNeo@web172406.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20121215131121.91e24e1c.freebsd@edvax.de> <1355588717.2687.75.camel@q> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:18:15 -0000 On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:25:17 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 13:11 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > Mixing PBI and ports/packages is possible, but discouraged. > > I read about it, but don't understand the issue. > > If I never ever would use PBI again but ports/packages only in the > future, it still would cause issues? The port directory isn't empty. As far as I know, this wouldn't be a problem on PC-BSD, as long as you don't deal with applications that are already installed. I don't know if PBI properly interoperates with ports and packages as there are many things to consider: package lists, directory structures and locations, and software databases. > I installed PC-BSD 8.2, regarding to the issues to partition, when I > started with FreeBSD 9.0, > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia/2012-December/013680.html . > > Manually downloading and installing is ok as a workaround, but in the > end everything should work without workarounds. There is also a CLI utility to avoid the unpleasant process of fiddling with a web browser and holding the wizard's hand during installation. :-) > So PC-BSD isn't really FreeBSD ;)? I asked before I installed it ;) and > it was said, that it is FreeBSD ;). Not quite. PC-BSD is "FreeBSD _and_", which means that the core of the system is FreeBSD, but it gets some special features such as the PBI installer and the integration and preconfiguration of the KDE desktop. It also has a custom installer. This implies that there are few things that could be called "incompatibilities", but that harsh word doesn't fit well. PC-BSD can be considered a FreeBSD "derivate" (again, doesn't fit well) for easier desktop (!) installation, with the recommendation to use its native tools (instead of the FreeBSD native tools), like "stay in your garage and use _your_ tools, not mine". :-) > However, since I've got my Linux for work, I don't depend on BSD. I can > spend some time to get BSD working :), OTOH I don't have much time to do > the same things again and again + I have to avoid that working on BSD > might damage my Linux installs or data. Unless you're doing something stupid (TM) with partitions, there shouldn't be any problem. It's not that some background process overwrites the partition table without anyone noticing... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...