From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jun 7 02:11:31 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA10231 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 02:11:31 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA10215 ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 02:11:17 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA10152; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 19:05:59 +1000 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 19:05:59 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199506070905.TAA10152@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, jkh@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Ok, *now* it's End-Of-ALPHA Release Candidate time! Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> I don't like it. It requires extra utilities. It stops binary >> utilities (e.g., nm) from working right on the kernel. It slows down >> booting. When the kernel grows a little over 640K or the disk grows a >Uh, Bruce. The kzip'd kernel is overlayed the minute the bindist is >extracted (and there are no utilities like nm available to get >confused by it up to that point anyway!). There's ddb. >It's only for the install. After that, it's gone! How do you debug installs without ddb? panic("cannot mount root") is a common error for new installations and is very easy to debug using ddb. Bruce