From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Apr 8 4:33:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from moo.sysabend.org (moo.sysabend.org [63.86.88.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18C837B41A for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 04:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by moo.sysabend.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1EB3757C; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 04:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moo.sysabend.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93CE1D98; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 04:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 04:33:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamie Bowden To: Terry Lambert Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Abuses of the BSD license? In-Reply-To: <3CB01A09.C86F98FC@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Approved: yep X-representing: Only myself. X-badge: We don't need no stinking badges. X-obligatory-profanity: Fuck X-moo: Moo. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: :Rahul Siddharthan wrote: :> That looks, to me, like effectively dropping the BSD licence terms, :> since you don't know what they apply to; sure you can find out with :> some research, but you could have done that anyway, given just a BSD :> copyright notice and no licence. And when redistributing, you can :> just continue to bundle the BSD licence, now made meaningless by this :> "we're not telling you what pieces" disclaimer. :Wrong. Without explicit delineation of what it applies to, :you must assume it applies to everything, not that it applies :to nothing -- else why would it be there at all? :USL recognized this in their license. If you have access to a :SVR4 derived machine that was shipped after the USL vs. UCB :settlement, look at the license on the header files. %uname -aR IRIX64 banshee 6.5 6.5.15m 01091821 IP25 This is from /usr/include/errno.h: /* * * Copyright 1992-1997 Silicon Graphics, Inc. * All Rights Reserved. * * This is UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE of Silicon Graphics, Inc.; * the contents of this file may not be disclosed to third parties, copied or * duplicated in any form, in whole or in part, without the prior written * permission of Silicon Graphics, Inc. * * RESTRICTED RIGHTS LEGEND: * Use, duplication or disclosure by the Government is subject to restrictions * as set forth in subdivision (c)(1)(ii) of the Rights in Technical Data * and Computer Software clause at DFARS 252.227-7013, and/or in similar or * successor clauses in the FAR, DOD or NASA FAR Supplement. Unpublished - * rights reserved under the Copyright Laws of the United States. */ /* Copyright (c) 1988 AT&T */ /* All Rights Reserved */ /* THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T */ /* The copyright notice above does not evidence any */ /* actual or intended publication of such source code. */ What are we supposed to see? Jamie Bowden -- "It was half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold" Hunter S Tolkien "Fear and Loathing in Barad Dur" Iain Bowen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message