From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 21:16:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC46E1065711; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397B88FC20; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [213.142.183.219] (helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KGKXn-000324-W0; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:16:16 +0200 Message-ID: <4873D917.6090305@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:16:07 +0200 From: Pietro Cerutti Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080610) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexey Dokuchaev References: <200807081304.m68D4RaC050067@repoman.freebsd.org> <20080708184207.GA70726@FreeBSD.org> <4873BA9A.6070906@FreeBSD.org> <20080708205824.GA32309@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20080708205824.GA32309@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://gahr.ch/pgp/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - FreeBSD.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: cvs-ports@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, ports-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/editors Makefile ports/editors/omegaT Makefile distinfo pkg-descr pkg-plist ports/editors/omegaT/files omegaT.sh.in omegat.prefs.in X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:16:17 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: | On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 09:06:02PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: |> Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: |> | On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 01:04:27PM +0000, Pietro Cerutti wrote: |> |> gahr 2008-07-08 13:04:27 UTC |> |> |> |> FreeBSD ports repository |> |> |> |> Modified files: |> |> editors Makefile |> |> Added files: |> |> editors/omegaT Makefile distinfo pkg-descr pkg-plist |> |> editors/omegaT/files omegaT.sh.in omegat.prefs.in |> |> Log: |> |> - New port: omegaT - a free translation memory application |> | |> | Can we please please please stop adding ports with uppercase letters in |> | their name (with a few notable exceptions, e.g. p5-FooBar and other |> | scripting tongues "batteries"). |> | |> | May I ask you to readd it as `omegat' please? |> |> No, you may not, unless you provide a good argument against the port |> name I've chosen. | | It's just about that most ports names are all lowercase (and this is | perfectly fine) and seeing capital letter is somewhat annoying. De gustibus non disputandum est. | I was also under impression that this name was chosen by original submitter, | not particularly you. If you put it this way, the name has been chosen by the original software developer(s). Refer to http://www.omegat.org/ . | | If you search the archives for "Can we please please please stop adding | ports ..." phrase you'll find that I've send it in the past for a number | of occasions, and usually people had agreed. Good for you. | | Also, I'm not sure how many ports have *last* letter or their name | capital, but I can't recall any of top off my head. To me, it looks | kinda ugly. De gustibus non disputandum est. (2) | |> You may also want to send a similar email to the maintainers of the 3842 |> other ports with uppercase letter in their names, for the sake of |> completeness. | | Yes, to tell you the truth, I'm periodically thinking about this. | However, I'm not sure how to handle it the best way. Also, when port | had just been added, it's far simpler to rename it as there's no | repocopy required, since there's no history to preserve. I would say the best way to do it is not to do it at all. Or should be all start complaining about things we do not like or seem ugly to us? | |> P.S. you're really starting to tease me. | | I'm sorry you feel this way. To elaborate: I'm periodically picking | some interesting commits (e.g., a port a care about, or description | catches my eye, or something else) and take a look at actual diffs. | I've noticed that last couple of my comments were addressed at your | work, and I felt a bit embarrassed about it. Please don't be offended. | FWIW, I didn't get any reply from you, so I'm not sure what did you | think about the issues I pointed out. Bottom line: I'm not picking | deliberately on you (or anyone else). I have read your mails and I have taken your points into consideration. Some of those were right, while some others didn't make any sense to me. Anyway, I have not ignored those. However, I didn't feel the need to reply, until today. If you'll keep an eye on my future commits (no doubt you will), you'll see that a few points from your mails will be included. | | I've been told already, that despite how polite one tries to sound, | people don't really care for reviews unless there's something utterly | wrong with particular commit. Obviously, style nits do not fall in this | category. Thus far, I think I can just stop pointing out anything to | people, leaving tinderbox' do their job, unless I know they care for | style and aesthetics. Let's just all have fun we're trying to here. Document your supposed "style nits" and "aesthetics" as guidelines in the porter's handbook and then feel free to point those out. To repeat myself, should we all start to complain about things that we do not particularly like from a style/aesthetic point of view? I guess we better leave people a certain degree of freedom and self-initiative. We all have more important things to carry about. Moreover, a "sorry, my mistake. Portnames are actually allowed to contain uppercase letters, as the handbook says" kind of response would have been more "polite". | | To a certain degree, this is sad, but true. Agreed. | ./danfe I am not about to discuss personal likes/dislikes anymore. - -- Pietro Cerutti gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAkhz2RYACgkQwMJqmJVx9452rgCgzcVxour6bU4V9kQOoKo/CoH/ Mp8An37P7CH5wg9Euzjzw1UKLmqlE2ig =6vqm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----