From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 16 18:18:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C429016A4CE for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 18:18:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from endif.cjb.net (65-101-231-137.dnvr.qwest.net [65.101.231.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BCAE43D4C for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 18:18:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from end@endif.cjb.net) Received: (qmail 36902 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Aug 2004 18:18:40 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:18:40 -0600 From: Robin Schoonover To: Christopher Nehren Message-ID: <20040816181840.GA36843@rogue> References: <20040731155822.GB35674@rogue.acs-et.com> <2A78201C-E316-11D8-9C56-00039312D914@fillmore-labs.com> <20040816155653.GA2405@rogue.acs-et.com> <20040816174010.GA82600@prophecy.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040816174010.GA82600@prophecy.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Oliver Eikemeier cc: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org cc: Mike Makonnen Subject: Re: RFC: Alternate patch to have true new-style rc.d scripts in ports (without touching localpkg) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 18:18:41 -0000 On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 01:40:10PM -0400, Christopher Nehren wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 11:56:53 EDT, Mike Makonnen scribbled these > curious markings: > > I have thought about this considerably, and I think the best solution > > is to have ports rc.d scripts installed to /etc/rc.d. One of the problems > > Please, no. This is in direct violation of hier(8), POLA, the concept of > separating third-party packages from the base system, and it also pollutes the > concept of a lean, clean, vendor-provided / file system. One of the > things that I love about FreeBSD is that it doesn't make a mess of the > base system like Linux does. If I wanted the mess that putting port > scripts in /etc/rc.d would cause, I'd use Linux. > ports tries to make it more difficult to place things outside of ${PREFIX} for a reason. :) -- Robin Schoonover (aka End) # "The algorithm to do that is extremely nasty. You might want to mug # someone with it." # -- M. Devine, Computer Science 340