From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Dec 20 5:54:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8ACD37B405 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 05:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11952; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:54:36 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011220065030.0264c930@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:54:17 -0700 To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen), Stephen J Bevan From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: GPL nonsense: time to stop Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <15392.14082.852072.868370@apathy.etunnels.com> <20011218121011.E21649@monorchid.lemis.com> <4hzo4hyv3c.o4h@localhost.localdomain> <4.3.2.7.2.20011217221801.02841bc0@localhost> <0gn10gyxwd.10g@localhost.localdomain> <15391.50782.619686.198748@apathy.etunnels.com> <736673ztx8.673@localhost.localdomain> <15392.14082.852072.868370@apathy.etunnels.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:02 AM 12/20/2001, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: >And how does that attitude mesh with >the fourth GNU Freedom: > > The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to > the public, so that the whole community benefits. This "freedom" is not a "freedom" at all. (In truth, it's reminiscent of George Orwell's "Freedom is slavery.") It is more clearly stated as, "The freedom to improve the program, but only on the condition that you are COMPELLED to give up all remuneration for your hard work." It doesn't sound so "free" if stated in this much less deceptive way. >What does "public" mean to you? "Upfront", my foot. Sure, most people >soon understand the essential "price" of "free" software, but there's >a huge amount of misleading propaganda drawing people to help RMS punish >non-copyleft software developers, many of whom would either prefer to >not punish closed source developers or other open developers (through an >escape clause for the latter). Cigarettes have clear warnings too and >foolish people still take up smoking by the millions. > >But misleading propaganda only helps make the bullying distasteful. Agree 100%. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message