From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 14 13:03:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFC6106566B for ; Mon, 14 May 2012 13:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivo.vachkov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qc0-f182.google.com (mail-qc0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9ED8FC17 for ; Mon, 14 May 2012 13:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qcsg15 with SMTP id g15so4089108qcs.13 for ; Mon, 14 May 2012 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=0IeNhZRDIzOqDa39z7g9KediiOQABizaoLHCkUqCVPA=; b=F1W5LxBDEHakULU/et0ArpwIv85QiyZKtt4LEf02aFxorNG0FCeoDx2EWwMqkvWwCj +yYYOiWr5lOjPzMFXK/I3CTUi9aGXCzuKlGqZqkYmimP3ssBI5ptmjpQxDkdUaXpBAGF tG4QENuEnCkIfZiA0aTQmfizwGHJwRhw6WwCEF7ERMjZT9gwyYG8pqzhouVS4wS1pX9O AIPmf1+CIK85BYOVKaJeLLMrBfzu/MyfTBkjsYuq0FnM7jiovWUyTzQu8jYvxWCWTSjP yWNoMbB0f/h0fEJN5/JlkPPnvV4HxBltK61VBPv97aY9vlktYwchyfXvUAK231+yyYMf GNjQ== Received: by 10.224.201.5 with SMTP id ey5mr12511942qab.74.1337000580988; Mon, 14 May 2012 06:03:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.241.144 with HTTP; Mon, 14 May 2012 06:02:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5fd642c1-7bf3-4a25-a35f-54cddea68f13@email.android.com> From: Ivo Vachkov Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 16:02:40 +0300 Message-ID: To: Monthadar Al Jaberi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" , Ivan Voras Subject: Re: B.a.t.m.a.n. X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 13:03:02 -0000 Hello all, On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Monthadar Al Jaberi wrote: > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Ivan Voras wrote: > > On 13 May 2012 06:46, Ivo Vachkov wrote: > >> Please define "working"? Porting? Kernel-level implementation? > BSD-licensed > >> one? > > > > I'm just throwing the idea out, in case it catches the eye of someone > > who's looking for an interesting project. In the ideal world, I'd say > > BSD-licensed reimplementation, but I certainly won't get picky. > > > > It does have some documentation (e.g. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wunderlich-openmesh-manet-routing-00 > > , http://www.open-mesh.org/wiki/batman-adv/Doc-overview). > Since it's not standardized, isn't it more logical to proceed with either user-space implementation or kernel implementation of something that has RFC assigned to the name (just asking, no troll/flame here)? Other than that I have some experience with BMX, Babel and OLSR. Also, i'm personally not convinced that kernel level implementation is the most appropriate choice for routing protocol (still i may be wrong). > >> Are there any reasons to choose B.A.T.M.A.N. instead of bmx or babel? > ... or > >> OLSR? ... or HSLS? > > > > I've seen BATMAN work at a local Linux club meeting, and I was pretty > > much impressed by how easy it is to setup. I don't know about the > > other protocols you listed, but BATMAN is in the stock Linux kernel, > > making it a practical choice. I might be wrong but it seems to me that > > it, contrasted to 802.11s, requires no special support from the wifi > > driver side, making it easier to implement. Other than that, no, I > As mentioned already 802.11s is link-layer technology (that from our experiments and research seems to be limited to some 30 devices), in contrast those are network layer (L3) protocols that operate on top of IP. > > I think it a better version of the Optimized Link State Routing > Protocol (OLSR) which is an IP routing algoritm, 802.11s is link level > routing, which needs a wifi driver that permits changing the mac > address. > > But there is no standard for it I think. OLSR: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3626.txt > > know far too little about all of them to have a preference. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > Monthadar Al Jaberi > -- Ivo Vachkov