From owner-freebsd-current Thu Aug 30 2: 6:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255A437B436; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 02:06:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7U9Bcq09230; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 02:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200108300911.f7U9Bcq09230@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Robert Watson Cc: Garrett Wollman , Mike Smith , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: ACPI CHANGES AFFECTING MOST -CURRENT USERS In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:26:50 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 02:11:38 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > - I pushed the power button, and my system shut down cleanly! > > > > > Yes. ACPI brings some useful new features. 8) > > > > FSVO ``useful''. It's a real PITA to have to physically unplug the > > machine when the kernel is wedged rather than have the power button > > turn off the power. (The machine in question does not have a reset > > switch.) As a sometime developer, I may well have a reason to power > > the system off without performing any kind of shutdown. > > Most systems with soft power will perform a hard powerdown if you hold > down the power button for a sufficiently long period of time (10 - 20 > seconds). Actually, it's typically somewhere between four and five. The spec mandates not less than four. Personally, as a sometime developer, I'd get a reset switch. Power cycling your system is Bad. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message