From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Nov 2 12:32:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from inu.net (mail.inu.net [63.151.4.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A3B37B4E5 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from inu.net [63.151.3.239] by inu.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AF63122A014A; Thu, 02 Nov 2000 14:32:35 -0600 Message-ID: <3A01CF60.CEAC9D50@inu.net> Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 14:32:32 -0600 From: Bob Martin Organization: InterNet Unlimited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About introducing newbies to FreeBSD References: <25170.973194470@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > > First, I would like to clarify that I personally like sysinstall just > > the way it is. But from most accounts, it's alienating to people coming > > from a Windows or Linux background. > > [recap of discussion from 1993 elided] > > I'm not just being snide here, we really have had this very same > discussion (and in almost the same words) on and off for the last 7 > years now. It's hardly rocket science to envision an installer which > has one big button on it which even your grandmother could push, the > question always boiling down to "Who the heck is going to write this > thing then?" > > That's generally where the discussion stops. Every man and his dog > can describe an installer which follows in the footsteps of Windows, > Solaris or even OS X now that we have its installer to look at since > imitation is a pretty straight-forward design challenge. As I first > said back in 1993, "who will step up to the plate and create this > alternative installer so that we can evaluate its merits and possibly > even make it the default?" I'm still waiting for an answer to that > question, 7 years later. :-) > > - Jordan Yes, this drum has been beaten long and often, and always with the same results. I apologize for for both the thumping sound I caused, and for getting so far off of the list's topic. -- Bob Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message