From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 19 23:06:14 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9FB5AFCC5 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 23:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walterp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pj1-x1030.google.com (mail-pj1-x1030.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F2KJQ0bSVz4Xfp for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 23:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walterp@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pj1-x1030.google.com with SMTP id cl21-20020a17090af695b02900c61ac0f0e9so9085522pjb.1 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 16:06:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=W1cyjSP8EY+xp/d+Qxfkgf2Uuq0j+nt6TDzQkTFlDf0=; b=tl2fGI995i+EXJcIrn78EdqRmt9N1PoDOUOObBBLcB5JLRf7BswDO/oxv72FUY50We 2XG/7Sroy6+pM6Qcw/ARVj7Lbrdt4KG4nOk/m6hYi74LDl+E1ObSfOIwVjeBPIbNT7u0 +ZNoO4ne6X5QbCXlNlJ4RZ9Cjsygxp62ItFrYGgLvdvQnfuoYgxweyDbifA0lyZuY5CD vyGZFP79ttr6U4H1/siXqaxMldfGPJuOui4K68ax93zWfGzjbLbD83o7sHXT6D1lViK+ /YLLMvkyTrZ5STOLyG8eYrJTqWbm+t75iM9B+lqwK2SIzhuPP2csssGcvQP49HRjB1jb e3Yg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=W1cyjSP8EY+xp/d+Qxfkgf2Uuq0j+nt6TDzQkTFlDf0=; b=o99K2eMKDA5Rr82IqKtsEgqHX6CRfHL0e03XLedU7z5jwUERUEc/JfGg63HhjdM208 JM7iA8Gy+y3pqs9UXIjIwjzpFfeYq7PkSzrROI1Np+oAKhxkSz3pfiUp0C/33x/HUxD2 MYHZmYafQkoLsf1z0O3RBDo5TCZz7cF0VdxIyGa8sKSIbkA7yFRqdQc1aBxDpMT2vcf3 3XclOtpaCrwEUtarWP0vN4a+2BtFwoeBK6VItRowaXgmmwj9Mxr/4CAoIeo4rZqq09ys hJ4LVhDt1rAHQvMtfpqsBIYplEZJ0d30+4X+kkR/x3FSh3TojsxMQLiThYhLBzgcm90z Zt1w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530qeTh41/SU9Xt27UgN+Gpsxuy3uNNXaUZhAq5jrveF0WHAyhDM 5k5yEycIXrewStDcocu6Zr8gN348DjLlk17xGRkiyhvsc78= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyXTcCu/E/ohmrd47qZzLB1Y30yOu3Jo1bViDZf2UbD0Phy4JFuwHTzgSwqs0ckJ2eYdgtBETjfyUiizJVOGSU= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:b182:b029:e6:5e:f2ce with SMTP id s2-20020a170902b182b02900e6005ef2cemr16537286plr.50.1616195172223; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 16:06:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Walter Parker Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 16:06:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 875, Issue 7 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F2KJQ0bSVz4Xfp X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=tl2fGI99; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of walterp@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=walterp@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 23:06:15 -0000 >On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 12:52:30 -0400 >Robert Huff wrote: >> >> Duke Normandin writes: >> >> > Other than being GUI-based, is there any distinct advantage to >> > using GPT? >> >> Um ... I have used GPT for about 10 years. >> Never have I used it with a GUI. >| was refering to for example: >gparted-common/buster,now 1.2.0-1.0antix1 all [installed,automatic] > GNOME partition editor -- common data >Isn't GPT and acronym for gparted? Not GPT is not an acronym of gparted. It is for GUID Partition Table. Seee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table In has been in FreeBSD since version 7 It also works with MacOS (x86 and Apple Silicon), Linux, NetBSD< OpenBSD, Solaris, HP-UX, and Windows x86 (2003 SP1,and Windows Vista or new) Windows x64 (2003 or newer). It has basically replaced MBR on most systems made in the past 10-15 years. In FreeBSD, the CLI command is gpart. It solves the 2TB problem that MBR has. It allows for more than 4 primary partitions (logical partitions are a hack best left to the MS-DOS days). I have multiple systems that are 10 years old,. use BIOS to boot and use GPT partitions. In my experience, lots of older systems support booting using GPT & BIOS. There appear to a few laptops that don't (based on comments in last several years). If you need to read data from a GPT based system, all you need is another system that supports GPT (such as FreeBSD 7 or newer) and a second drive bay. I know people that still use MBR, but those fall into two groups: Embedded systems and people that have not updated tools chains in 10-15 years. As far as EFI/UEFI systems go, most of those use GPT. Some may support MBR and others may not. Gparted is a GUI based Disk partition editor that supports editing GPT type partitions. Walter -- The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis