From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 15:47:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-212.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FA137B401 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA68828 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:47:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bill) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:47:09 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Redundancy... Message-ID: <20010219184709.A68789@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@bilver.wjv.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from drew.weaver@thenap.com on Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:03:04PM -0500 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:03:04PM -0500, Drew J. Weaver thus spoke: > On a side note, make sure that the ISP that you co-locate has gas > powered generators as well as backups protecting your servers, > or it wont really do you much good to have it hosted out of some > guy's basement =) Gas powered generators are typically on the small side. Serious generators are typically diesel. To me the best way is to find an ISP who is co-located inside a carrier [we've done that with our ISP], and rely on humoungous UPS and the 1MW+ Cat generators. Not the cheapest but IMO the best. Prices aren't the cheapest - but not that bad either. eg a 1 RU server with 1.5Mbit guaranteed bandwith on our 100MB uplink to the OC192 - is $850 month. It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish and how critical the servers are. > This may or may not be an option, but segregate the resources that > much be live 24x7 (probably not your office client server > applications) and co-locate those. Don't bother having a local copy > of them since it is probably just as easy to update the content at > your co-located site. > > Then the only thing you keep local is your interoffice lcient server > stuff shich if the building goes down, nobody is live to use anyway. > We would want to co-locate 4-5 boxes (all FreeBSD & 1 NT). One > box is a DB server (MySQL) and the others are web servers. We > currently are no co-locating. All of our boxes are currently under > our roof along with the bandwidth (2 T-1's). As we found out, the > biggest point of failure that we have is if there is an extended > power outage at our location. > -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message