From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 23:17:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67802703 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 23:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-f53.google.com (mail-oa0-f53.google.com [209.85.219.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EF19B6 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 23:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id m1so1730647oag.26 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 15:17:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9NAqQppeMl9xf/tegoRijcONi8t/hh8Qesi7Q1/WgA4=; b=n93IGWtX2MOjfQjkgitn7twHGyLfSYKPmBYWceA5Vo9heoLv1+CWhwg+du+aM9ZRfj M7LeKz/teOa+QusrqRj6WWbsYd/OFUlbF7sSZNdj7tbhHKK/Gm3745pvGC+PHn0lrPu2 R8eH+wvHUFmScMxwMJyXobvsVZX4cW4qN5cl7Y7iFSd2Om2VOrM3D2CxkkeK/Uu7LESH uNS5dVmT9hO15MfJ4SeuvlgBGQ38YY6ILs5W3CMo3j218vQP3T7/ZYUZEmAORU8oKn8M ud0VsJffjL43BOXNnUmuZBg8g10TA05ojCIg+xHJiW5OGofjz8P84UpdAx7PeQWsitH/ 8yFA== X-Received: by 10.182.23.101 with SMTP id l5mr3231234obf.16.1361661469842; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 15:17:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (c-98-212-197-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p2sm3520617obb.6.2013.02.23.15.17.48 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 23 Feb 2013 15:17:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51294E12.3040906@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:17:38 -0600 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not simplify Copyright at boot/dmesg? References: <20130223171150.eeb88206.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130223183234.cf559a552f31f9b19cf67bd6@sohara.org> <5129140B.6050106@gmail.com> <512935B7.7070008@gmail.com> <51293B1E.8010103@gmail.com> <20130223222337.f68865d83a3051c429b81dd1@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20130223222337.f68865d83a3051c429b81dd1@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 23:17:57 -0000 On 2/23/2013 4:23 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 15:56:46 -0600 > "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" wrote: > >> On 02/23/13 15:33, Joshua Isom wrote: >>> On 2/23/2013 1:10 PM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: >> >>>> It seems the regents copyright claims end in 1994. Perhaps some >>>> underlying piece of code is still in FreeBSD requiring this notice? >>>> >>> >>> Perhaps the creation of FreeBSD and the release of 4.4BSD? Nothing from >>> Berkley's been added, so no new copyright. There's little need to >>> incorporate later patches to 4.4BSD because divergences between the >>> 4.4BSD and FreeBSD. > > It's even simpler than that 4.4 BSD Lite2 was the final release > from Berkeley CSRG in 1994. There have been no later patches to 4.4BSD from > Berkeley, that was the last release of any kind from CSRG. FreeBSD 2.0 was > based on 4.4-Lite, the updates in Lite2 were merged in pretty quickly IIRC. It would matter when it was released, not merged. If it was merged in 1996 but the code was released in 1994, the copyright's still 1994. >> Not that I find it an issue, but could whatever is left over be removed? >> Just a thought, not a concern. > > I can't think why anyone would want to, and I expect there's a *lot* > left over, certainly their copyright notice appears in many files > in /usr/src. > That also ties in with NIH syndrome. Gnu does that a lot just to make sure they can change to GPLv4 without problems, while Linux is still GPLv2. It's also not just Berkeley, but other people and organizations hold copyrights. From a quick glance, netatalk is by the University of Michigan. Mounting a cd using cd9660, which is still listed as Berkeley, is probably so tested and proven by now, that there would be no benefit to rewriting it other than to change the copyright.