From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 25 13:08:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE91D106566C for ; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C96B8FC23 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so2327601fxm.36 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:08:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XA2+Kk7XiNr2ceiEMpjykoLQrBopPHJjJoRAIeD4lXs=; b=jsBg23JMQU3r5zyZIDavM3vCDvBg3HROAiL05cbH+vyKGfLJRl/EndTMVQRVx2q1Ri cnUb1WuJ8rPl+v56aPrUD9Zv1rU/LyNseCi8FWdQPQKZUPBawzVlOyO1wjnG8shZsqs9 IQIpWQPx+dexpuj43jupgqDDj+8Jc4lZFbMtc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=CYZ0ftDnmVJmAdzRFrtSMO5wbYjykdv3QSILseSXuVGxQHC4N6gy3BhuO6gGDqaCk6 nPrdOzMalNC57ZEVV4u9aCPKN8kbEb8F9vqJfCFA6IVZhDWoA9ZgOi29KKdcVSr04dB4 bZrm9jREuxyg1jFqyN3bhuWdPLENpakaVEDto= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.204 with SMTP id q12mr9231hbd.39.1253882471540; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:41:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <200909241735.n8OHZMVM099476@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:41:11 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Saifi Khan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, "Julian H. Stacey" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why no Oracle on FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:08:02 -0000 2009/9/25 Saifi Khan > On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > > > i noticed that there is no Oracle available for FreeBSD > > > > > > http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/index.html > > > > > > > > > > What could be the reason for that ? > > > > > > > > Best ask direct of commercial application vendor Oracle. > > > > IE wave money under Oracle's nose & ask to purchase what you want. > > > > > > > > If Oracle think there's enough profit in it, there's many BSD > > > > consultants eg http://berklix.com/consultants/ willing to work. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Julian > > > > -- > > > > > > i was wondering if there is any technical reason behind this ? > > > > Most unlikely. Ask Oracle & tell advocacy@ what you find out. > > I'd bet perceived market share & demand as ever, ie Money. > > > > Hi Julian: > > Here is the response on the Oracle forum thread to my posting, > > > """ > FreeBSD is a kernel not used in any extant operating system with > the sole exception being Apple's Mac OSX so you are heading, > full speed ahead, toward disappointment. FreeBSD handles many > things very differently from the UNIX System 5 standard so you > can not just kludge your way into this. > > What fascinates me about your request is why you care. FreeBSD > is going nowhere at a staggeringly fast pace. And to the same > place as went Oracle Database version 8.0. Obscurity. > > Install Oracle's Enterprise Linux and you will have a real > operating system in less time than you've spent monitoring this > thead. And as an additional value it will support the Oracle > technology stack while you are still young enough to use it. > """ > > and > """ > IF you can match up the system calls, then you can 'make it > work'. > """ > > The relevant links are > 1. http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=952076&tstart=0 > 2. http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=952076&tstart=0 > > The response seems to suggest that there is some feature used by > Oracle which is expected from a UNIX Sys 5 std and perhaps > FreeBSD does not support/have the syscall. > > Given the response, What is your analysis of the situation ? > > > thanks > Saifi. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I have seen a guide on howto get oracle to run on bsd, it did use linux compatibility though. I have to say though the reality of the situation is you are probably best running oracle on solaris with a zfs fs underneath it. Forget the wrongs and rights and what should bes, the reality is you will find everything easier from a comercial support point of view with that combination.