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Date:      Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:41:11 +0100
From:      krad <kraduk@googlemail.com>
To:        Saifi Khan <saifi.khan@datasynergy.org>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: why no Oracle on FreeBSD ?
Message-ID:  <d36406630909250541y1d9aaa4cw2ab4ca3f95da1c42@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0909251754001.40555@freebsd>
References:  <200909241735.n8OHZMVM099476@fire.js.berklix.net> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0909251754001.40555@freebsd>

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2009/9/25 Saifi Khan <saifi.khan@datasynergy.org>

> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
>
> > > > > i noticed that there is no Oracle available for FreeBSD
> > > > >
> http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/index.html
> > > > >
> > > > > What could be the reason for that ?
> > > >
> > > > Best ask direct of commercial application vendor Oracle.
> > > > IE wave money under Oracle's nose & ask to purchase what you want.
> > > >
> > > > If Oracle think there's enough profit in it, there's many BSD
> > > > consultants eg http://berklix.com/consultants/ willing to work.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Julian
> > > > --
> > >
> > > i was wondering if there is any technical reason behind this ?
> >
> > Most unlikely. Ask Oracle & tell advocacy@ what you find out.
> > I'd bet perceived market share & demand as ever, ie Money.
> >
>
> Hi Julian:
>
> Here is the response on the Oracle forum thread to my posting,
>
>
> """
> FreeBSD is a kernel not used in any extant operating system with
> the sole exception being Apple's Mac OSX so you are heading,
> full speed ahead, toward disappointment. FreeBSD handles many
> things very differently from the UNIX System 5 standard so you
> can not just kludge your way into this.
>
> What fascinates me about your request is why you care. FreeBSD
> is going nowhere at a staggeringly fast pace. And to the same
> place as went Oracle Database version 8.0. Obscurity.
>
> Install Oracle's Enterprise Linux and you will have a real
> operating system in less time than you've spent monitoring this
> thead. And as an additional value it will support the Oracle
> technology stack while you are still young enough to use it.
> """
>
> and
> """
> IF you can match up the system calls, then you can 'make it
> work'.
> """
>
> The relevant  links are
> 1.  http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=952076&tstart=0
> 2.  http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=952076&tstart=0
>
> The response seems to suggest that there is some feature used by
> Oracle which is expected from a UNIX Sys 5 std and perhaps
> FreeBSD does not support/have the syscall.
>
> Given the response, What is your analysis of the situation ?
>
>
> thanks
> Saifi.
>
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I have seen a guide on howto get oracle to run on bsd, it did use linux
compatibility though.

I have to say though the reality of the situation is you are probably best
running oracle on solaris with a zfs fs underneath it. Forget the wrongs and
rights and what should bes, the reality is you will find everything easier
from a comercial support point of view with that combination.



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