From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 6 20:37:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B45106564A; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de) Received: from smtp.kn-bremen.de (gelbbaer.kn-bremen.de [78.46.108.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32398FC1B; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:37:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kn-bremen.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id A4D751E00301; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:37:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from triton.kn-bremen.de (noident@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by triton.kn-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n76KZ28B017124; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:35:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox@triton.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by triton.kn-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n76KZ1x8017123; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:35:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox) From: Juergen Lock Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:35:01 +0200 To: Alexander Motin Message-ID: <20090806203501.GA16639@triton.kn-bremen.de> References: <20090806191848.GA14171@triton.kn-bremen.de> <4A7B357C.5010203@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A7B357C.5010203@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Juergen Lock Subject: Re: (es)ata drives may need an explicit spinup command? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:37:28 -0000 On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 10:56:44PM +0300, Alexander Motin wrote: > Juergen Lock wrote: > > So I tested esata on a siis pcie card with a 750G Seagate Freeagent Pro > > drive and it does work - until the drive falls into powersave mode > > after being idle for a little while. :( (I had the drive on 1394 > > before on another box where it was able to recover from this condition, > > but not on usb or esata - and the drive's 1394 interface died a while > > ago and also esata is faster anyway...) > > > > And now I came across this patch for the linux ata driver: > > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/jgarzik/libata-dev.git;a=commitdiff;h=169439c2e35f01e7832a9b4fc8a7446980c3d593;hp=1e999736cafdffc374f22eed37b291129ef82e4e > > > > So my question is, could the same be done in our ata code? > > I have a slight :) hope it would help this drive too at least as it > > does seem to work on Linux... > > I am not sure it is related to your case, as you said your drive works > for some time after plug. If drive spun-down automatically due to > inactivity, it should spin-up automatically also, as OS unable to track > that transition. 30 seconds of ATA command timeout should be sufficient > for drive to do this. Do you have any other symptoms? Well the drive becomes completely `dead' for our drivers once in this state, and when I try an atacontrol detach/attach on it at that point its not even found anymore. (And when I powercycle it by pulling its little wall wart for a moment it comes back.) Oh and I think I saw something in our 1394 drivers too that does send something like a spinup command... Also there have been threads on the net about Seagate external drives not working properly on Linux for a few years as well because of this powersaving `feature', and the drive does work on Linux here as I said (at least on esata) so I suspected that commit might have been what fixed it. Thanx, Juergen