From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 22:38:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1D81065673 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryan@shatow.net) Received: from secure.xzibition.com (secure.xzibition.com [173.160.118.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D158FC0C for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:38:07 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=shatow.net; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=sweb; b=zCyAMo 749ip/57nCSjPJISFyYG7r+Li14jFDBKld7fecEVdoJ/6BZulLmO7vs2XR7JlGq0 aQxOVqarNCnnr+b1I421Id8orsHgwl/MvShUMZQF8II8JGJ7g0b7icvgBWvtf8o0 C4RofMtt1DhORLBrKQfRMoSsVboZFXjCawIy0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=shatow.net; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sweb; bh=De6YInNZyQ/r 7zagddHGx8xHPP0nrN3YFME4m2ooHNo=; b=VIc1nFh1L8e0089RUIEN0kGfZl6L g0egUhMK/hcdLNvWm5230hlsSIrRMqrcv0RESMa8eSGf7N0J5Swa4jpw6jwvtY7l qa9vKHs7HtkcfwtsNh1IBvau+VGb8oNXWwYlN1lNsUYDNg0NeigvKrzBYQsCY24+ EzZ967abMxFCEV0= Received: (qmail 68884 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2012 17:38:05 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.74?) (bryan@shatow.net@74.94.87.209) by sweb.xzibition.com with ESMTPA; 23 Aug 2012 17:38:05 -0500 Message-ID: <5036B0E2.1000600@shatow.net> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 17:38:26 -0500 From: Bryan Drewery User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Wills , Baptiste Daroussin References: <97612B57-1255-4BB3-A6D3-FC74324C6D67@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <97612B57-1255-4BB3-A6D3-FC74324C6D67@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:38:10 -0000 On 8/23/2012 5:19 PM, Steve Wills wrote: > Hi, > > It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is confusing that running the command gets different results the second time it is run vs. the first time. I can imagine a user saying "I ran pkg, but it didn't do what they said it would. Now I run it again, and it does do what it is supposed to." Also, it would enable setting up a pkg-bootstrap man page separate from the pkg man page, without confusion about which one you're looking at. > > So, opinions? There may still be time to fix it for 9.1 if we can decide quickly. > > Thanks, > Steve > Even automated tools can be prone to that mistake. I think either we need to make the bootstrapper be silent and forward the command to the downloaded version (kind of surprising... what is taking so long??) (and higher risk to rush in right now) or rename as you suggested. But if we rename, when and who runs it? Will we update bsd.port.mk to run it if needed? Bryan