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Date:      Wed, 04 Mar 1998 13:06:43 -0800 (PST)
From:      Simon Shapiro <shimon@simon-shapiro.org>
To:        Wilko Bulte <wilko@yedi.iaf.nl>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, blkirk@float.eli.net, jdn@acp.qiv.com, tlambert@primenet.com, sbabkin@dcn.att.com, grog@lemis.com
Subject:   Re: SCSI Bus redundancy...
Message-ID:  <XFMail.980304130643.shimon@simon-shapiro.org>
In-Reply-To: <199803041914.UAA01584@yedi.iaf.nl>

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On 04-Mar-98 Wilko Bulte wrote:
 ....

> And best of all: no users.. We all know that systems tend to stay up much
> longer when left alone (read: dedicated to say WWW serving or something
> like that).

sure.  The number of variants is much smaller then, the number of execution
paths through the code is smaller.  It is almost as if software behaves
like mechanics (like an engine running at constant RPM lasts much longer
than one stat stops-n-goes, etc.).  Some computer scientist needs to pick
up on this phenomenon (really).

>> No, I use FreeBSD for the last 18 months.  Seagate claims, in writing
>> 1,000,000 hours mean time between failures on their drives.  Can FreeBSD
> 
> Read the fine print on MTBF: it applies to large enough populations. You
> as Joe Average user will never have a statistically sound sample to claim
> anything. So they can essentially write down what they like.

Oh, I am fully aware of it.  But I still claim (with confidence), that the
typical modern hard disk has a much better (many times better) uptime than
any Unix (or NT) does,  I suspect they even have better uptime than most
motherboards and most memory SIMMs (although this makes no sense at all).

Simon


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