From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 16 22:59:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2C1106566C for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:59:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EA08FC0A for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadr6 with SMTP id r6so4011465dad.13 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:59:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Axq+pMjz6WVxTf9drN14wvmgbdabWf07mnuqQ5/4q2A=; b=virOlRHjNnSucSxPJ1YOs5PyPfzsEBcBt/EwTBrrf7I+Cu/V5F5/cnMJJHPZkjiB3u Oeg6+1gfHpMm4TIZ3E8LumIBzTWPNFij0chY/QDierIdjvQEEcn+96Ywh8TYdq3WxCY+ zd3JrsTXbMpjUibl7FL5PfUl2BsGtxf5KxULTrPa/Un0N28mvJXpGCMzfB+7FpiShgQ+ JHlOd39Hra5Aj9yDxGFfOyCBn67XDw4ibuKwFObqL7rW7o55lhyrFkjGzGcvNlc+drpl 2+0itSUPqKTmPP4HGU0/aPvfeNK4ocexFjeudwnrthXEqyq0dsAizPiBGpjlfkbFEfbK ryiA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.189.164 with SMTP id gj4mr8847192pbc.48.1347836379387; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.36.106 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:59:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120916053523.GJ37286@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <51B48339-D1FA-49CD-B582-1C58855B024E@bsdimp.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:59:39 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TTQEP15rP_neVn72USsL1zOdbqc Message-ID: From: Adrian Chadd To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Konstantin Belousov , arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fallout from the CVS discussion X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:59:40 -0000 Hi, I'm not specifically saying that what _you_ are saying comes across as anti-GPL. There are more people involved in the march to "BSD everything" than you. :-) Adiran On 16 September 2012 13:07, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 16 September 2012 15:53, Adrian Chadd wrote: > >> * I'd like to first see a roadmap for doing this - eg, "we're adding a >> NO_CVS option; CVS will become a port, you can migrate to the CVS port >> with your next build/installworld"; > > We have WITHOUT_CVS . > >> * if you're that way inclined, backport the NO_CVS option (if it >> doesn't exist) to -9; > > Already done. > >> * Ensure all of the stuff that uses CVS is migrated beforehand, and >> publish all of that effort somewhere; > > This is part of my plan. > >> * Make sure you're doing it for reasons that aren't coming across as >> "GPL free! at all costs!" > > This has nothing to do with the reasons I proposed to remove CVS. > Please re-read my original email. The first words were "CVS is > obsolete." > I had *no idea* CVS was GPLed until the thread started (I thought were > using a BSD licensed one). > >> Now, to stir up trouble, I hereby suggest that if you're going to >> remove CVS because it's no longer used for FreeBSD's project stuff, we >> should obviously import subversion into the base because _it_ is being >> used for the FreeBSD project stuff. > > Please re-read the original thread. I am removing CVS because it is > obsolete. CVS being used for FreeBSD project was merely a key blocker > to its removal. > >> Think of why you're not doing that >> (likely because it's already a port/package and there's just as much >> inertia to introduce something to the base system as there is removing >> it and making it a port) and see if that helps refocus your reasons >> for and against doing things. > > I am not proposing introducing subversion into base because I am not > willing to do the work to maintain it. If I were, that would be a > different story (imho, the base should have sufficient software to > download and compile itself). > > > -- > Eitan Adler