From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Aug 10 15:45:19 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FDD3A6AE1 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 15:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BQKzf5ZM0z4RL3 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 15:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id BCE9D3A6649; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 15:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB113A65D6 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 15:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: from mail.evolve.de (mail.evolve.de [213.239.217.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.evolve.de", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BQKzd3LBmz4RDk; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 15:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: by mail.evolve.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id b3518ada; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 15:45:08 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=grem.de; h=content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to :date:cc:message-id:references:to; s=20180501; bh=LxI3dxjnr52pMd MDPlamuuLb+rI=; b=SU84+B6W8BXzu2+wCOQ9cVUOhH1zCc+HiWR9bmSm1mUCOL ad8sz/jTdLrKkHXHHSCYDFXDhqNwqeLymiublsUFQJlaMD2jDbX79lhPJs+QPsph YZlEpZ47RC+Qh/5lfMxGqa9aTN4JrxOJ/RNsvwW59Y+2LDuUsQzOnWh/XLG6MG19 kWJPT982QjRJ2kAP2VnuvEPiJ3Etq47ANqHpMeuXaZu9VrXgvQFPbpBMxZpDLwgp OdaYXSoacS0Ug2Efct0tv/s4NkITEuQO2aDlePFn1AlyfB39+Ti+p+egNMRvpB2Y OQ/3wjx4qGURERbfqJBiGWrvaUDEdV10M19iOd/Q== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=grem.de; h=content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to :date:cc:message-id:references:to; q=dns; s=20180501; b=N2r9CKxn enrX3bSYQSe8dcfZ0WUtK1sCUOOrjR81FxlwzTAqH2ecLLydqVc3mGTydf+E+yKF ZcnEu2DrmPcqKKBBIHuWWcyNjUuLvThIxEn/t8HyGu5Yu8+a+rkuOJvgNDN6PaZU c9QKkGyv8CFLJpQkzZpGEqNqUD7r9I87rbJxi3COvAAoHKZ+bbTrcF41H/NyUpGL FJCUg+klKzmd3fT1eOQ3dO04+U0LYcjXLuXndVowHeEei1XA4l9R3WCajBrwpXic sm/Q5cL7FjK+xek6f2GNf0WTGmWk/OQIPpMnlQ/40e0UFBIS/1CzWmy8ia/xteAm HXdRWbfzK31V4w== Received: by mail.evolve.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 0b4374bb (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:256:NO); Mon, 10 Aug 2020 15:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] Planned deprecation of portsnap From: Michael Gmelin In-Reply-To: <87e338e4-d1bf-d26f-d60d-8ac55ae25b70@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 17:45:03 +0200 Cc: Lars Engels , "ports@FreeBSD.org" Message-Id: <49F5ED94-5ED3-4314-81EF-0F54EF36F377@grem.de> References: <87e338e4-d1bf-d26f-d60d-8ac55ae25b70@FreeBSD.org> To: Steve Wills X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17G68) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BQKzd3LBmz4RDk X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=grem.de header.s=20180501 header.b=SU84+B6W; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@grem.de designates 213.239.217.29 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@grem.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.73 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[grem.de:s=20180501]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:213.239.217.29/32]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[grem.de]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.002]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[grem.de:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.65)[-0.651]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.08)[-1.078]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:213.239.192.0/18, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 15:45:19 -0000 > On 10. Aug 2020, at 16:22, Steve Wills wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFHi, >=20 >> On 8/10/20 9:28 AM, Lars Engels wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 02:43:20PM -0400, Steve Wills wrote: >> I'm probably fine with this and I think that all of the (now) supported >> methods have pros and cons. >> To leverage the UX flaws of git and svn(lite) compared to portsnap >> having a wrapper script around the two tools would be very appreciated. >> Something like >> # portsnap-ng --mode git --branch 2020Q2 --destination /ports/2020Q2 fetc= h extract >> The package devel/git does not seem to be installed, do you want to ins= tall it? (Y/n) _ >> With sane defaults, so you can just run portsnap fetch extract like >> you're used to and this >> downloads the latest ports tree to /usr/ports using base svnlite(1). >> While we're here: Can we please have a separate user that is used to >> checkout the tree? >> Lars >> P.S.: Please DO NOT name the wrapper portsnap-ng. :-) >=20 > I think something like this will likely in many ways perpetuate many of th= e problems I listed in my original email, particularly with folks being on t= he wrong branch and not properly generating patches. There are many users who never create any patches, but simply use the ports t= ree to install software. Please make sure the ports collection keeps working= for them. Michael