From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Oct 12 19:06:17 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC9943E896 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 19:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeising+freebsd@daemonic.se) Received: from mail.daemonic.se (mail.daemonic.se [176.58.89.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C97SS5QcWz4YmV for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 19:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeising+freebsd@daemonic.se) Received: from cid.daemonic.se (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C97SQ6Vq5z3nHB; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 19:06:14 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=daemonic.se; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-language:content-type :content-type:in-reply-to:mime-version:user-agent:date:date :message-id:from:from:references:subject:subject:received :received; s=20151023; t=1602529570; bh=Fjo/9VP7dYfspVahufhGwQsV vuY8FbrP/fVSLFiP9LM=; b=YIkhpt0+CY7n4xQHlMw8RW4Yjxre+OAuhWaDnUnQ hErql536CAY7e5OHDmE59/U9bm3mNnnCVf6RI8c1HzrYriODKTUZQjlnV8d3smpQ H3OJkWItjkc9W0e7O5x6fx8uqVe232rUhDhL6hpPwFRRo7lVlOtjXviEIVhzZiDd +rY= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daemonic.se Received: from mail.daemonic.se ([IPv6:::1]) (using TLS with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256) by cid.daemonic.se (mailscanner.daemonic.se [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10587) with ESMTPS id eiJgVwEc_ppn; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 19:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from garnet.daemonic.se (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:dca9:1201:43f:f9de:ba82:38c5]) by mail.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4C97SL37XHz3lb7; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 19:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: 12.2-RC2 synaptics "tap to click" To: David <2yt@gmx.com>, nonesuch@longcount.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <52dda53f-2537-b3cd-be03-e7c147fddf56@gmx.com> <809b7e01-e288-5344-5a43-f9ff42baf457@gmx.com> <53d2c374-c198-b522-1d31-9e4d3afbbfcf@daemonic.se> <6292d1f1-e2c2-0e74-0841-36e6f739109f@gmx.com> <037670a9-3deb-3e49-d53e-ed12bb7acb96@daemonic.se> <6a873a86-2f36-b3e3-fe26-f2222797d37e@gmx.com> From: Niclas Zeising Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 21:06:09 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6a873a86-2f36-b3e3-fe26-f2222797d37e@gmx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4C97SS5QcWz4YmV X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=daemonic.se header.s=20151023 header.b=YIkhpt0+; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=daemonic.se; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of zeising@daemonic.se designates 176.58.89.161 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=zeising@daemonic.se X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.72 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[daemonic.se:s=20151023]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[zeising]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.961]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[daemonic.se:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[daemonic.se,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.69)[-0.690]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.07)[-1.070]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmx.com,longcount.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:176.58.89.0/24, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 19:06:17 -0000 On 2020-10-12 20:49, David wrote: > On 2020-10-12 12:08, Niclas Zeising wrote: >> On 2020-10-12 19:02, David wrote: >>> On 2020-10-12 10:43, Niclas Zeising wrote: >>>> On 2020-10-12 17:08, David wrote: >>>>> On 2020-10-12 08:15, Niclas Zeising wrote: >>>>>> On 2020-10-11 18:55, 2yt@gmx.com wrote: >>>>>>> On 2020-10-11 09:39, Mark Saad wrote: >>>>>>>> 2yt >>>>>>>> =C2=A0=C2=A0 Can you provide us some details , what do you have = in your >>>>>>>> boot/loader.conf , etc/sysctl.conf >>>>>>>> and what do you have in your Xorg config ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /etc/X/11/Xorg.conf does not exist. (auto generate on startup) As >>>>>>> far as >>>>>>> I know, the only synaptics related setting I have is in >>>>>>> /etc/boot.conf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hw.psm.synaptics_support=3D"1" >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the default on FreeBSD 12.2. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for letting me know. >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Attached are the files you requested and the output of sysctl hw.= psm >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 11:29 AM <2yt@gmx.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I use a Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen. After upgrading to 12.2 fro= m >>>>>>>>> 12.1, I >>>>>>>>> lost=C2=A0 "tap to click" which worked perfectly in past releas= es. Is >>>>>>>>> this a >>>>>>>>> know feature change? Is there a new sysctl variable that needs=20 >>>>>>>>> set? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The other synaptics features are all working just fine. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you show what xinput --list-props for the trackpad? (list with >>>>>> xinput --list-devices and then check which device is the trackpad, >>>>>> then >>>>>> xinput --list-props id-of-trackpad). >>>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for the troubleshooting help. The output you requested do= es >>>>> show "Tapping Enabled" set to 0. Is this the problem? >>>>> >>>> >>>> It could be.=C2=A0 You could try just running something like >>>> `xinput --set-prop 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad' 'libinput Tapping >>>> Enabled'` >>>> and see if it helps. >>>> You can use the ID of the device instead of the name, but the ID mig= ht >>>> change if you for instance boot the machine with an additional keybo= ard >>>> or something.=C2=A0 If it works, you can put it in your .xinitrc eor >>>> .xsession, and it should take effect every time you start X. >>>> Regards >>> >>> Yes, running `xinput --set-prop 10 'libinput Tapping Enabled' 1` did >>> resolve the problem. I will update .xinitrc as a workaround. >>> >>> Question: is this problem unique to my laptop? Are other Thinkpad use= rs >>> not experiencing this issue with 12.2? >>> >>> Thank you so much for helping me. I can't stand the clicking noise th= e >>> touchpad makes. >> >> I don't know if others are experiencing this issue.=C2=A0 Myself, I've= had >> the xinput stuff (and some other things) in my .xinitrc for quite some >> time. >> Yours is the first report that I've seen about this. >> Regards >=20 > In the next day or so I will do a fresh install to confirm whether it i= s > a bug in 12.2 or an update/ssd corruption issue. Will update you with > the results. >=20 > Thanks again for the help! There has been changes in how input devices are handled in FreeBSD xorg.=20 Most of them should have been visible in 12.1 already, but it might be=20 due to this. It is definitely not a bug, it might have been a default that changed=20 with the various updates to xorg and friends, though. Regards --=20 Niclas