From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 19:03:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CA316A4DF; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA61A43D81; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:03:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k87J2ur9086288; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:02:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Julian Elischer Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:02:19 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200608281545.k7SFjn6l063922@lurza.secnetix.de> <200609071057.44515.jhb@freebsd.org> <450065EC.7040604@elischer.org> In-Reply-To: <450065EC.7040604@elischer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609071502.20654.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:02:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/1816/Wed Sep 6 22:29:36 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Peter Jeremy , Garance A Drosehn , Doug Barton Subject: Re: Attempt #3, adding a new command 'sfilter' X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:03:15 -0000 On Thursday 07 September 2006 14:33, Julian Elischer wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: > > >On Wednesday 06 September 2006 21:15, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > > >>Maxim Sobolev wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Why not just write simple 5-line script in your favorite scripting > >>>language (perl, python, ruby etc) that does just this and forget about > >>>it? I don't think performance is really a concern here since the most > >>>time this program will spend waiting for the I/O anyway, so that doing > >>>it in C makes little or no sense. > >>> > >>>IMHO this is one of the reasons we do have all those lightweight > >>>languages around - to avoid having separate utility and/or command > >>>line option for each and every particular situation. > >>> > >>>-Maxim > >>> > >>> > >> > >>perl is not lightweight to install on a machine. > >>have you seen how much crap gets installed when you add perl? > >> > >>lightweight is adding 100 instructions or so to 'date'. > >>or adding the strftime instruction to awk (as it is in gawk) > >> > >> > > > >Why not install the gawk port on the machines you need this on rather than > >perl and use gawk then? It doesn't look to be that heavyweight of a port. > > > > > > so, instead of "add 20 lines of C and make something generally usefull, > install another entire program" You said perl was too heavyweight, and that you would use awk if it supported it, so I pointed you at a relatively lightweight version of awk that does support it, and requires no code work at all. :) The way the thread is going (sfilter, etc.) you're going to end up with an entirely new program anyway. :) (I am of the opinion that sfilter will end up as a very limited poor-man's awk eventually anyway.) -- John Baldwin