From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 29 17:15:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D283416A41C; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:15:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D3243D58; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:15:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C03BE51932; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:15:04 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Alfred Perlstein Message-ID: <20050629171504.GB46153@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050628154627.GJ40423@elvis.mu.org> <790a9fff05062809211c27a435@mail.gmail.com> <20050628164703.GK40423@elvis.mu.org> <20050629045711.GA1007@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050629133634.GN40423@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050629133634.GN40423@elvis.mu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: kan@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, Scot Hetzel , obrien@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: libstdc++ version bump. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:15:06 -0000 --kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 06:36:34AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Kris Kennaway [050628 21:57] wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 09:47:03AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > No, it's not that. It's just that when we decided to upgrade gcc/g++ > > > in the 5.2.1 era someone didn't bump the library version for > > > libstdc++. > > >=20 > > > It would have been a two second change, but instead it appears that > > > it was decided that early adopters REALLY needed to be put in their > > > place for being stupid enough... to be early adopters. > >=20 > > No, it wasn't that simple..there were many places where the ABI was > > broken, and it wasn't feasible to fix them all. >=20 > "So instead of screwing a subset of the users we screwed them all." >=20 > I'm not really happy that mindset but if it's working for us(*) then > I guess we should keep doing it. >=20 > (*) not me, as I always seem to get hosed by these things. Maybe you could tune in to the discussions next time instead of waiting for a year before raising your voice...it's not like they were secret. Kris --kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCwtcYWry0BWjoQKURAjMUAJ496ACpfeoS69bbirohDd9Yf0u/4ACgzyjS m9/VstSR7nb/95s+r66xxbI= =SZlZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R--