From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jun 15 0:30:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6EB37B406 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:30:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.245.138.115.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.245.138.115]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07805; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 03:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B29B98E.DAF2ABE4@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:30:22 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Withrow Cc: Cyrille Lefevre , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: import NetBSD rc system References: <200106141357.JAA27316@pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert Withrow wrote: > > clefevre-lists@noos.fr said: > :- oops, rc2 isn't started. too bad. > > I think that is exactly the desired design. The > RC *system* starts things correctly, but the manager, > *bypassing* the RC *system* can start and stop things > exactly as he wished. For debugging or whatever. > > I'd argue that if you want to start/stop a *subtree*, you > should ask the RC *system* to do that somehow. Run levels or run states? It would be damned useful, for every embedded system I've ever used FreeBSD for (four now, but who's counting?) to be able to say: o Start _all_ the standard FreeBSD stuff, I'm using this thing as my developement workstation. o Start _only_ the FreeBSD stuff I'm going to be shipping, so that I know what will and won't be in the target environment actually works. o Start the FreeBSD stuff I'm going to be shipping, _and_ start the locally developemed stuff I'm going to be shipping, since I'm either shipping or doing a full regression test. Right now, this is about as impossible as building a distribution which can install correctly from a CDROM, but is built from a kernel config other than GENERIC. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message