From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Aug 9 04:49:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA21478 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 04:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news.IAEhv.nl (root@news.IAEhv.nl [194.151.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA21473 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 04:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCAL (uucp@localhost) by news.IAEhv.nl (8.6.13/1.63) with IAEhv.nl; pid 22420 on Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:49:28 GMT; id LAA22420 efrom: peter@grendel.IAEhv.nl; eto: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: (from peter@localhost) by grendel.IAEhv.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA03379; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 05:53:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19970809055307.20710@grendel.IAEhv.nl> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 05:53:07 +0200 From: Peter Korsten To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISDN drivers/cards References: <199708082153.XAA12878@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.67e In-Reply-To: <199708082153.XAA12878@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de>; from Wolfgang Helbig on Fri, Aug 08, 1997 at 11:53:39PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Wolfgang Helbig shared with us: > > > > This is really my main point, bisdn works for some folks and not for > > other, but is no real reliable base for part of FreeBSD. It's a mess and > > that could explain why some people have so much luck and other don't. > > Mostly boiling down to "luck" I expect. > > The messy part starts when you try to run ppp over isdn. But straight > bisdn-097 works fine for a lot of people. I installed it nearly a year ago > successfully. It was one of the first things I did with FreeBSD, so > it didn't take much expertise to install. But as a matter of fact, raw IP over HDLC isn't really used outside of Germany. At least, it isn't used one country to the west, the Netherlands. I also notice that people speaking in favour of bisdn are called 'Wolfgang' and 'Hellmuth', both your average German name. I need PPP to make my ISDN card of use and though the bisdn code may be okay (I can neither confirm nor deny that), installing it is a real pain in the you-know-what and the PPP-hack looks really yuckie to me. I would be very happy with ISDN-card support as a LKM and a PPP daemon that can talk to something else than a serial line. If I could offer help in this, feel free to mail me. - Peter