From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 2:10:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A041237B446 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:10:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14l5mZ-0008BJ-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:10:23 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f359ALc34706 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:10:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:10:21 +0100 From: Rasputin To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot, no panic. Recovering from a crash. Message-ID: <20010405101021.A34543@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <20010404231722.A25165@dojo> <002801c0bd91$517c92c0$0204a8c0@unixforever.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <002801c0bd91$517c92c0$0204a8c0@unixforever.net>; from fury@unixforever.net on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 12:28:48AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * fury [010405 06:28]: > No it was NOT a hardware issue unlike many ppl stated, fact is, I have never > figured it out. Then how do you know it wasn't hardware? I'm not saying you're wrong, fury, and I can see you're more than a bit pissed off, but in the vast majority of cases it *does* turn out to be hardware. I had similar problems to The Anarcat about a month ago, (spontaneous reboots under fairly high load - make -j4 buildworld etc) and couldn't get a fix here except for 'bad RAM/CPU/mobo' No kernel errors, CVSupped at least once a week, no difference. Decided to put up with it until I could upgrade the box, fitted a new CPU and 4X the RAM. It was only then that I noticed that my second SIMM was only half in the slot. Which meant that the minute BSD tried to use the last 8Mb of that SIMM, I'd get a reboot. > I really don't know how to put this, but since we're in a code freeze > and I'm running stable, if a few people witness this behavior, well... And that was my question too. All I can say to help is that 4-3-RC0 (built on April Fools Day) is running a treat now. > FreeBSD shall.anarcat.yi.org 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #2: Wed Mar 14 > 18:50:48 EST 2001 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SHALL i386 > > A few minutes ago, I was doing a few things at the same time on my > machine. I was doing a make install clean in > sysutils/[gcombust|gtoaster|xcdroast], copying /mnt/cdr to ~/cdr, and > opening a ssh session to my shell account. > > Before I could get to a password prompt on the shell account, I didn't > even had time to realize what's going on that my computer beeped and was > back to the BIOS POST startup procedure. Shikima usually did it when I was on the wrong end of an SSH session. > I had so much scrapped files that I interrupted the process at some > point to restart it with "fsck -y". Things like UNREF DIR, LINK COUNT > DIR, UNREF FILE, and all sort of evil warnings of the kind. That was a big worry too - didn't lose any data here though. Do you run softupdates? Might be worth enabling them until you get this fixed; I didn't really notice the overhead on a P133/32Mb. > The "crash" has somehow been recorded in wtmp. last says: > > anarcat ttyp1 :0 Mer 4 avr 23:45 - 23:47 (00:01) > reboot ~ Mer 4 avr 23:43 > anarcat ttyp4 :1 Mer 4 avr 23:26 - crash (00:17) > apocalypse. That's interesting. I never managed to find any log evidence that a crash had happened. > Don't do as daddy does, boys and girls. Do backups. Often. You never > know when the shit'll the fan. :) I(n my experience, it's the day before you make a monthly backup :^] -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message