From owner-freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 26 09:01:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4C4106566B; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 09:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rea@codelabs.ru) Received: from 0.mx.codelabs.ru (0.mx.codelabs.ru [144.206.177.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019198FC0C; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 09:01:01 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=codelabs.ru; s=two; h=Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=HUbM8GCQdgXE7ezdTLCX0nt4AyDMvuSAo3BhcEtDEH0=; b=s4CtLJc4EjZM1hMpZjfvt29n7lcD8p6WIRhzbeuPllTHE8DLEHyjjA+PKytR+hK+T0hSlCcp87fwVUk5RhhVtP95xk1crHP4X7nyj2HO5K3CxEGGEj9hEBaUNEXlLI+ToNq/jL0dJFFwAQaNgSn4o2WSTZUvJLMCUtVaJBkrADppGKmIQMzjV/ZTLA+j5eL5oQgPnWH/vvu4qsNmCpgU7j6BCP4Jly8eTH1842w38zZ4U8QjfYqHmm4G3xhvT3b630PqawyPaebD4LdDnc/j5wkMGEM0bSUVzXAwJkmM80AHa/Sm/yGPAta133tY86gZ4Uh8zHcDrR100iqqF9/Jvw==; Received: from void.codelabs.ru (void.codelabs.ru [144.206.177.25]) by 0.mx.codelabs.ru with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) id 1Rf6QW-000Fcl-4k; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:01:00 +0300 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 13:00:57 +0400 From: Eygene Ryabinkin To: Doug Barton Message-ID: References: <4EF6401E.3080902@FreeBSD.org> <20111224215649.GA12789@stack.nl> <4EF80CA7.3070303@FreeBSD.org> <4EF82E3B.6040601@FreeBSD.org> <4EF833B7.9040704@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iskw6J4cuOvZ6IVF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EF833B7.9040704@FreeBSD.org> Sender: rea@codelabs.ru Cc: Pyun Yong-Hyeon , d@delphij.net, Garrett Cooper , Gleb Smirnoff , freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Annoying ERROR: 'wlan0' is not a DHCP-enabled interface X-BeenThere: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion related to /etc/rc.d design and implementation." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 09:01:02 -0000 --iskw6J4cuOvZ6IVF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:43:35AM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > On 12/26/2011 00:40, Eygene Ryabinkin wrote: > > Doug, how that can be a failure? >=20 > How does anything fail? Isn't that why you call it a "failure" instead > of a "success?" Doug, I am sorry, but let's drop the theoretical discussions about how things are failing -- this is out of scope. Back to the message you're replying to: {{{ Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:20:11AM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > On 12/26/2011 00:17, Eygene Ryabinkin wrote: > > The error message "'$ifn' is not a DHCP-enabled interface" is not > > generated when $ifn is DHCP-enabled interface, > > That's precisely the failure I'm concerned about. }}} I am translating the whole dialog to the following one: - rea: error message " am not a cat" isn't generated when the is a cat. - dougb: that's the failure I am concerned about. - rea: how this can be a failure to refuse to say "something isn't a cat" when it _is_ a cat? - dougb: how does anything fail? Isn't that why you call it a "failure" instead of a "success"? Please, tell specifically, what is the failure you're concerned about and how it will affect people who use FreeBSD? > But if Gleb is right and the problem is new to HEAD, when did it change, > and why? Doug, had you read the initial message of the thread? It is on http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-rc/2011-November/002472.html To ease the life, I can answer that - the problem was introduced in r226879 - by me - I was fixing my previous commit that generated r226464 - the purpose of r226464 was to fix the rc_force check in dhclient script > I get that you're motivated by the best of intentions. My concern > remains that we're trying fix the symptom rather than the root cause. Let me ask the simple question: what do you think is the root cause you're talking about? --=20 Eygene Ryabinkin ,,,^..^,,, [ Life's unfair - but root password helps! | codelabs.ru ] [ 82FE 06BC D497 C0DE 49EC 4FF0 16AF 9EAE 8152 ECFB | freebsd.org ] --iskw6J4cuOvZ6IVF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iF4EAREIAAYFAk74N8kACgkQFq+eroFS7PunLwD/eerXWVdbKl7ROXVteygLSqY1 DqdUC8ZVY7XzDmPDE3AA/1tf13KudJ4l2S/bxCMl5apBHAih45q9nuZspL1QBnxD =PQI9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --iskw6J4cuOvZ6IVF--