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In message: <20091220183519.GB64667@lor.one-eyed-alien.net>
            Brooks Davis <brooks@FreeBSD.org> writes:
: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 06:31:56PM +0900, Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote:
: > Hi,
: > 
: > >>>>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:30:41 -0800
: > >>>>> Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> said:
: > 
: > > About the value this change, I think it should be same as the values
: > > at boot time.  I cannot imagine that someone want to restart the
: > > system daemons under the user environment. 
: > 
: > dougb> I can actually, especially for ports.
: > 
: > Yup, I often do restart the services installed from ports, too.
: > I meant that I don't want that the values of user environment are
: > inherited to the services which is started from the user environment.
: 
: This is where the value of service(8) would lie for me.  The ability
: to not have things work by accident due to my environment and then break
: at reboot would be be very helful.

I'd love to have some way to say 'If the daemon dies, please restart
it.  But don't be so eager about it that your attempts to keep it
running interfere with things like service'

Warner