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Date:      Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:36:34 +0300
From:      Jordan Gordeev <jgordeev@dir.bg>
To:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Vrrp/CARP/ucarp Problems
Message-ID:  <4608F3B2.3000609@dir.bg>
In-Reply-To: <3DDDCC38D00FA545A6C012475EF2DC0302AF85DF@LQEVS1.gcapmedia.com>
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On OpenBSD web server load balancing is achieved using PF + hoststated. 
Using CARP is not appropriate as is noted in the (FreeBSD) man page. I 
think VRRP is also not appropriate.
Ross Draper wrote:
> Hi All
>  
> I was wondering if I could get some advice from those of you who have
> successfully implemented ip address failover systems such as carp and
> freevrrpd.
>  
> I am trying to set up a high availability web loadbalancer using a pair
> of freebsd 6.2 boxes. I have tried a number of ways to perform failover
> but always seem to be hitting a problem.
>  
> UCARP
> Pro's:This would be my ideal solution as the startup/shutdown scripts
> enable me to stop and start my applications and add aliases to adaptors
> easily.
> Cons: When the backup box is rebooted it always comes up advertising
> itself as the master then after a few seconds reverts to backup,
> although I was under the impression it was supposed to wait and listen
> for advertisements(it doesnt seem to). The backup boxes initial
> gratuitous arp as a master is sufficient to poison any traffic from the
> local router to the shared ip address. Only solution was to use arp-sk
> to send gratuitous arps every few secs, however, arp-sk was a bit flakey
> and it was a bodge.
>  
> CARP
> Pro's: stable and built into the kernel. Could enable acive/active arp
> load sharing at a later point.
> Cons: There is a Freebsd bug (I've seen it discussed on the lists) where
> the creation and destroyal of a carp interface causes a kernel panic.
> Also, there is no support for start/stop scripts.
>  
> Freevrrpd
> Pros: Mac address changing removes some of the arp timeout
> issues/gratuitous arp problems and it supports start/stop scripts
> Cons: I'm finding that upon rebooting the backup unit it correctly
> starts as a backup, then three seconds later syslogs that it is the
> master and changes its mac address accordingly. although a sniff of the
> network traffic indicates it is sending the right advertisements(lower
> priority), it never goes into backup mode again.
>  
> So, what am I doing wrong? Are these common problems, or something that
> appears specific to my hosts/switches? are there more suitable options?
> The loadbalancers are all single homed and I have tried a mixture of xl,
> bge and fxp cards.  
>  
> Any help/suggestions much appreciated, also, any links to a perl based
> gratuitous arp util would be great!
>  
> Many thanks
> 
> Ross 
> 
> PS - Apologies if you see multiple copies of this message, I seem to be
> having trouble getting mails onto the list.
> 
> 
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