From owner-freebsd-current Thu Aug 30 2:27:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE0737B408; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 02:27:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA10673; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:27:13 +1000 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:27:02 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: To: Robert Watson Cc: Garrett Wollman , Mike Smith , Subject: Re: HEADS UP: ACPI CHANGES AFFECTING MOST -CURRENT USERS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010830192209.P675-100000@besplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Robert Watson wrote: > On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > FSVO ``useful''. It's a real PITA to have to physically unplug the > > machine when the kernel is wedged rather than have the power button > > turn off the power. (The machine in question does not have a reset > > switch.) As a sometime developer, I may well have a reason to power > > the system off without performing any kind of shutdown. > > Most systems with soft power will perform a hard powerdown if you hold > down the power button for a sufficiently long period of time (10 - 20 > seconds). Yes, it's a real PITA to have to hold down the power button for that long :) (it's normally more like 5 seconds though). I have a system that often doesn't come up after a hard reset or crash (at least video doesn't work), and have to hold its power button down for too long. I've found acpica as useful as any other disk filling service and hope it stays that way. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message