From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 26 19:02:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E10F16A401 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C1843D46 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:02:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA3E209D; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:02:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Tests: AWL,BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Learn: ham X-Spam-Score: -2.4/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on tim.des.no Received: from xps.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by tim.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C5D2081; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:02:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: by xps.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DB6EE33C8D; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:02:24 +0200 (CEST) From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) To: "Jason C. Wells" References: <4425EB38.5070604@highperformance.net> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:02:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4425EB38.5070604@highperformance.net> (Jason C. Wells's message of "Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:15:36 -0800") Message-ID: <86odztyqpr.fsf@xps.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: First to Dual License Wins? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:02:31 -0000 "Jason C. Wells" writes: > I was looking into Berkeley DB which presumably came out of Berkeley > and was freebeer/freespeech software at it's inception. Berkeley DB > is now more correctly called Sleepycat DB. One can only use > Sleepycat as part of commercial software if one pays Sleepycat a > license fee. > > A commonly stated position in the open source community is that if > someone tries to take software into a closed or royalty based > license model, that the code will just fork and development will > continue on the new fork and the closed/not free code will die. > That doesn't really seem to be the case with Sleepycat. I will go > so far as to state the threat to fork the code to keep it free is an > empty threat. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It worked for SSH (OpenSSH was derived from the last free release of SSH before Tatu Ylonen went into business). The reason why it didn't work for Sleepycat DB is probably that there were already plenty of alternatives, such as dbm, gdbm, ndbm, cdb, tdb etc. > So the first party to dual license some software and add a bit of value=20 > to the code in the process basically wins. Only if the original developer can't keep up, or they are the original developer, and there is no competition. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no