From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 14 10:01:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9591065677 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7AE8FC13 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (unknown [192.168.0.199]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B66947ED for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:33:16 +1000 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081211143249.GC40295@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4be2da2e0812062344y26eddcc9sf589531d10c71a1c@mail.gmail.com> <20081207093713.O5433@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081207082932.04a7cf16@scorpio> <1228733209.4495.12.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20081211143249.GC40295@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:32:31 +1000 Message-Id: <1229214752.18610.11.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:01:31 -0000 On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 09:32 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 08:46:49PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 08:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: > > > > > > > IMHO, before FreeBSD can make a significant market share improvement, > > > it has to improve its hardware support. NVidia, for one, has expressed > > > a desire to support FreeBSD; however, it needs the FreeBSD organization > > > to improve its basic product, especially in the 64-bit systems, which > > > are the future of computing. > > > > Ok. So what needs improvement and where to start? Not being critical, > > I'm interested in this. > > > > Personally though, I think the business model here is a failure and > > seriously flawed. And yes, I did study business at Monash (and butted > > heads constantly; IF you don't look out for the health and well being of > > a community, environment, employees, whatever- the extreme social > > responsibility- then the clients and potential clients die, ergo no > > customers therefore no money to be made. Thats looking after your > > bottomline: Duh!) and saw this continually. Marketing the same; > > The thing people seem to forget is that FreeBSD doesn't have a > business model - or that is its business model. It is simply > sharing technology without much concern about propagation or return. > It accepts contributions of various kinds, mostly in kind. > > ////jerry And that is what makes it so good- because of this business model (or lack thereof) the people involved are doing what they love (at least I would hope so), so like with cooking the secret ingredient to a good product is always love (I hope this doesn't sound too sappy! But it is true, more care is always taken when people actually care about what they do).