From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 20 01:21:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F6A16A423 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 01:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@greenmeadow.ca) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4780B43D46 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 01:21:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duane@greenmeadow.ca) Received: from ip04.eastlink.ca ([24.222.10.20]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IZJ0003CIF2XLY0@mta01.eastlink.ca> for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 May 2006 22:21:02 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-199-230.eastlink.ca (HELO [192.168.0.103]) ([24.224.199.230]) by ip04.eastlink.ca with ESMTP; Fri, 19 May 2006 22:21:52 -0300 Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 22:20:41 -0300 From: Duane Whitty In-reply-to: <446D157A.4070308@greenmeadow.ca> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-id: <446E6EE9.3060406@greenmeadow.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= References: <446D157A.4070308@greenmeadow.ca> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060503) Subject: Re: [OT] Domain Name Registrars X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 01:21:53 -0000 Duane Whitty wrote: > Hello to everyone, > > Would anyone care to recommend a good domain name registrar, > able to offer service for both gTLDs and .ca ccTLDs. > > I've tried cheap and to be honest my headache just keeps growing. > After having setup FreeBSD, DNS, Sendmail, and Apache, I thought > I had the hard stuff taken care of. I guess I was wrong. > > All I want to do is have my registrar point the name server entries for > a .com domain I'm managing at the name servers I'm running. Why is this > so difficult? Or expensive? > > Is it my fault? Am I doing something wrong? -- I know, kinda hard to > answer that. > > My registrar told me my name server needs to be registered with > ICANN. I've read > as much as I could find about ICANN's mandate and policies on their > website > http://www.icann.org but I couldn't find anything which indicated I > had to register > anything with them unless I intended on becoming an ICANN certified > registrar. > > It seems odd in any event that I would need to register my name > server, which is in the .ca > domain, with ICANN. Obviously I had to register with CIRA but that > seems irrelevant > to my current situation / vexation. > > If I do somehow need to register my name server with ICANN would > someone be so kind > as to point me to the correct RTFM entry, URI, etc. > > Thanks in advance, > > Duane Whitty Hello again, everyone Thank you for your responses. Yeah, my registrar is on crack as far as I'm concerned and I think a lot of other registrars, if not most of them, are just as bad. I wish there was a way to tell the root servers about my name server without even needing to go through the registrars For the record, the registrar is Netfirms. Beware of Netfirms. I just don't understand what the issue is. Maybe they thought I'd roll over and give them all my DNS, email, and web hosting business once they made it impossible for me to run my own DNS. If so, they thought wrong. And ICANN will definitely be hearing from me. What I don't understand is why they bother with this policy. Isn't it just easier to sell a domain name and tell the customer to email you or fill out your web form with their name server information. I know that is exactly how it use to be done, except you only only dealt with one organization. Then charge a customer if they want extra stuff. Then if they want enough extra features start making packages with incentives. And even when you know you may have this problem and ask about it directly it's like pulling teeth trying to get a straight answer. I've basically come to the conclusion that anything other than an immediate "Yes, name servers are your responsibilty. Tell us the name of your name servers and the IP addresses. If you want us to run your DNS it costs this much $X extra". Well, whiners are irritating and I'm starting to irritate myself. So enough of my noise. Thanks a lot for the suggestions and clarifications. Most Respectfully, Duane Whitty -- duane@greenmeadow.ca