From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 3 11:10:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DACE37B419 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 11:09:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from cpe-24-221-47-19.az.sprintbbd.net ([24.221.47.19] helo=sparky.suntreeaz.com) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16AyTR-0004n7-00; Mon, 03 Dec 2001 11:09:53 -0800 Received: from drs (drs.suntreeaz.com [192.168.254.19]) by sparky.suntreeaz.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fB3J9oV09205; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 12:09:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from drs@suntreeaz.com) Message-ID: <001301c17c2e$1611f520$13fea8c0@drs> From: "Don Sutter" To: "Annelise Anderson" , "Lord Raiden" Cc: References: Subject: Re: How to train a newbie Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 12:09:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I hope this isn't considered blasphemous by I found the Craig Hunt series for Linux (Sybex) very helpful. I found his Sendmail Administration book far easier to relate to than the O'Reilly book and the same for Samba Server Administration by Smith, also by Sybex, vs. O'Reilly's "Using Samba". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annelise Anderson" To: "Lord Raiden" Cc: Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:02 AM Subject: Re: How to train a newbie > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Lord Raiden wrote: > > > Ok folks, I got a greenhorn here and I need to train him up on how to use > > Samba, Apache, SSH server/client, Unix FTP server, etc and I suck at > > training. The guy kinda knows what he's doing, but I have never trained > > anyone in how to do this and I have no idea how to teach a new guy how to > > do all this. No, this was not my idea to try to train him up as a > > sysadmin. Blame my boss. :) This guy is better with Windows 2k than BSD. > > > > But, since I'm stuck training him on how to setup and admin the basics of > > how to admin a BSD box, I need some help. Anyone know of any good tutorial > > guides to learning all of the necessary core items of BSD including the > > extras like Samba, Apache, etc? I need to figure out how to teach him and > > I'm a rather poor teacher, but a great tech, but I'm still the unlucky sap > > saddled with it. :) Any good transitional windows to unix tutorials would > > be great too. Thanks. > > > > And no, I don't like training and hope I never have to do it again, but > > I'm up for a raise and a promotion, so I'm stuck butt kissing for the next > > 3 months. :) So, any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > Given that you don't want to develop a training course on the spot, > one approach is to teach him how to figure things out for himself and > learn how to use the basic sources of information--books, Internet > resources, and installed sources of help and information. > > Do you have the books? There are now five: > > 1) Handbook (second edition) (Clayton & Stokley). Of course, an essential > reference. > > 2) The Complete FreeBSD (Lehey), 1999, thus out of date; we await the next > edition. Still the best on some topics. > > 3) FreeBSD Unleashed (Urban and Tiemann). May have more on specific > applications (apache, samba); this would be its strength. > > 4) FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide (Mittelstaedt). For the sysadmin > dealing with both Windows and FreeBSD machines. > > 5) FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your Personal Computer. > If your newbie is really green on UNIX, this would be helpful. Deals > mostly with the base system, with the assumption that the reader is > unfamiliar with any UNIX-type systems, but is fairly comprehensive on > setting stuff up, building kernel, upgrading, third-party software > installation. (Disclaimer: I wrote this one) > > Beyond that, of course something like UNIX System Administration Handbook > (which uses FreeBSD [version 3.2] as one of its example systems > is an essential resource. > > And then, something on the shell and a UNIX reference. Also right > now I like Think UNIX by Lasser as a conceptual introduction. And > books on specifics like sendmail, apache, samba; or whatever it is > you use--including your references on security. > > How do you start? I'd get him to install and configure a machine on > your network (his own laptop if necessary) probably using 3 above, > and then give him specific assignments for setting up a web server on > the machine, setting up ftp-only accounts (or whatever it is you > need to do), etc. That could take him a day or a month. Perhaps > he should keep a journal on what he's done. > > During this time, you're a resource--you answer questions, but mostly > you guide him to sources of information and their interpretation. > > And you can check his work and meet with him about the results; log > in to his web server, access your home directory on his machine; run > nmap on it and talk about the results; etc. > > Once he can install and configure a machine with most of the services > (and security) you want, you could introduce him to the specifics > of how your organization manages specific stuff and the problems that > might arise. Scripts you use, your daily routine for checking log > files, etc. > > You can keep a log for yourself of things you have to address or solve > that you want to be sure he knows how to address by the end of this > training. > > Annelise > -- > Annelise Anderson > Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC > Available from: mall.daemonnews.org and amazon.com > Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message