Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 08:24:51 +0100 (MET) From: Andreas Klemm <andreas@knobel.gun.de> To: Jake Hamby <jehamby@lightside.com> Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>, hackers@freebsd.org, jdc@crab.xinside.com, velte@cdrom.com Subject: Re: Interested in CDE, anyone? Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.91.951217073706.405A-100000@knobel.gun.de> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.951216000951.237A-100000@localhost>
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On Sat, 16 Dec 1995, Jake Hamby wrote:
>
> I've tried out CDE on a SPARCstation 20 running Solaris 2.4 and
> (recently) Solaris 2.5. I have VERY mixed feelings about it. On the one
> hand it looks pretty enough, and it has the advantage of being a
> "standard" across platforms. Also, it has a pretty toolbar on the
> bottom, a number of Motif-based tools (similar to the Openwindows
> "Deskset" stuff), and virtual consoles.
Really, it looks very nice ! But...
> Those are the pros. But the disadvanatges are so big, that I doubt it
> will be a big seller on FreeBSD (or Linux for that matter). First of
> all, Motif is big, and so are the CDE programs. Even with 48MB of RAM,
> and the fastest (single-CPU) superSPARC 75MHz, most programs take a
> noticeable five seconds or so to start.
Last week I installed it in the company on a SS 10/40. The machine
is equipped with 64 MB RAM, CG6 (GX) graphic accelerator and a
2.1 GB Harddisk (5400 U/min).
The machine currently runs a Netscape communication and proxy
server and serves about 10 WWW users. But not all the time.
My experience is, that my machine is a bit slow now under CDE.
The mouse cursor doesn't respond as quickly as I was used to
under Solaris 2.4 without CDE.
> Am I totally wrong, or is there a fundamental flaw in the idea of porting
> CDE to a "tight" platform like FreeBSD? If you want it, you're just as
> well off to run Solaris for x86, IMHO, and upgrade your system to 32MB of
> RAM... :-(
Only 32 MB ? ;-)
I'd question myself the following...
My ,Top Ten'(tm) not to buy CDE for FreeBSD:
- costs money (ok, same as for Motif)
- would make my machine slow
- would possibly need to upgrade to 64 MB RAM (costs money as well)
- CDE menue bar configuration looks complicated, like fvwm/mwm
configuration style
- buying motif license would be more useful, since
there are currently more Motif related programs
available as C source
- can I compile and run Motif programs under CDE
without having to fiddle around in sources... ?
- the deskset tools are still a bit lame ...
mailtool comes without pgp support or such
- Possibly to few CDE desktop tools. What would come
with CDE on a FreeBSD machine ?
Missing fvwm's functionality of
- changing virtual screen by simply moving the cursor to the
border of the screen
- seeing the actually opened windows in the swallowed pager
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